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Dylann Roof sentenced to death
RE: Dylann Roof sentenced to death
(January 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm)Shell B Wrote: Sure, but you keep bringing up its current state, which we both already have a problem with, so we can just leave it out.
Naturally, since it's current state is...well...it's current state.  I've also expressed my objections to your proposed improvements of that state.  Beyond thinking that those improvements, a cheap(er) and flawless system, are beyond silly as expectations of anything that we could ever achieve in the real world...supposing we could, I'd still object to the death penalty on the grounds that -I- find the most compelling, which you may not.  Limits to the power and authority of the State.  The State, by it's very nature, wields a broad and terrifying ability, even when it steps lightly, even when every precaution is taken. I suppose we all have varying experience with or as or in relation to that ability, and those probably have a deeply diversifying effect on our positions regarding the State. I;d lock it in a box as much as possible, anywhere possible, and especially in places where it does something that there is no need for. Things that serve nothing and no one.

Quote:Yeah, see this is more about me just not giving a shit than trying to solve a problem. The way I see it, the people who are hungry for their brand of justice can go ahead and kill these guys, as long as they're extra careful about not killing anyone else. Again, not saying that's what's happening or that it's necessarily possible in this country. Just that those are my criteria for being just plain blasé about it.
I can understand those criteria.  You've compartmentalized it (not criticizing, just noticing).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Dylann Roof sentenced to death - by Regina - January 10, 2017 at 10:41 pm
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