(April 16, 2017 at 9:50 am)Cyberman Wrote:(April 16, 2017 at 9:02 am)Little Rik Wrote: You show me evidence that the I or consciousness die when the body-brain die or that the atoms make the consciousness and I will cover you with 24 carat gold.
No, you show evidence that the "I or consciousness" SURVIVES "when the body-brain die [sic]". That's the claim on the table, the claim that you and only you are making.
Unfortunately most humans don't understand what causes them to think a after life exists. Even Hindus and Buddhists think of reincarnation as a "forever". What is really going on is purely mental. It is a false perception reflecting our evolutionary drive to move forward and continue. It is a false perception. Really no different than a dog confusing it's own reflection in the mirror as being another separate dog.
Most humans simply don't understand they are finite and the only place we really live on is in the memories of those whom survive us. But we are still finite, and while certainly unique as individuals, we really are nothing more than our brains in motion, very unique fingerprints sure, but still nothing more than physical mass and fuel in motion.
Reality isn't romantic enough for most humans. Reality isn't romantic or sexy, but it is reality, and by accepting that you can understand the world better.