I Used To Be A Fan But I Am Now Shocked, Disgusted And Appalled With Sam Harris

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It seems contradictory to say something is too complex to be measured accurately but it's also easy to use common sense to tell that there's not much difference between measurements.

That's just you being obtuse again.

The fact that it can't be measured accurately in a technical way is why we have to resort to common sense. It's the best we've got because it's difficult.

If it's too complex to be measured with accuracy what method are you using for measurement to come to an accurate conclusion?

That's the whole point... it's not measurable. It's merely definable.

Intelligence is generally defined as understanding, learning, application of knowledge, expression, creativity, forward planning.

Those are all different things and I don't consider "intellignce" to be a Wittgenstein family resemblance concept.

There are over represented groups in fields where intellect is a prime requisite for success, Jews and Asians for instance when it comes to Nobel prize winners, finance, academic achievements, careers in science and technology, law, media and entertainment, comedians, entrepreneurial success, medical fields, sales.

Those are all skills and talents and fields of expertise. We're talking about intelligence itself here.

Not just in America or any specific country, with Jews especially this is especially true.  This is where the ideas of a Jewish conspiracy come from which I think is nonsense, I think they're just simply clever.

"they", as in "Jews", are clever.

Okay dense bigot.

It's not really random in the sense that they're over represented in all of those fields, in a various countries and all of those fields require complex understanding, learning, creativity, forward planning, application of knowledge and so on.

At the very least, to me, it would seem to require more than common sense to come to a conclusion of near enough complete equality between racial groups and intelligence.

The null hypothesis isn't distant differences of intelligence between races the null hypothesis is near enough equality between races. The fact you're looking for evidence of near enough equal intelligence between races and assuming by default that some races have significantly superior intelligence to others just speaks to the bigotry behind your preconceptions. There's absolutely no reason to think that any races are significantly more intelligent than any other races. Intelligence is about forming connections between neurons and as long as you have a non-disabled human brain your brain is more than capable of forming strong connections... and it is simply that some people have more potential and a higher capacity than others. And such intelligent people are very much between all races.

Why are you trying to accurately measure something that is too complex to measure? The whole reason IQ tests are inaccurate is because they are grotesquely unsophisticated and very much non-comprehensive when it comes to measuring intelligence.

My point being purely that it's understandable to say race and intelligence are complex issues, but seemingly illogical to me to say it's easily observable by common sense to observe races are all equally intelligent.

It's not "easily" observable. You've got your null hypothesis backwards. Common sense is pretty much useless.

When it comes to intelligence, it takes one to know one, you either have it or you don't... and you very much don't. I only waste my time and energy on you when I'm bored because your denseness is so freaking frustrating. It's not something that can be objectively measured.