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Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
(August 16, 2017 at 6:43 am)rjh4 is back Wrote:
(August 16, 2017 at 1:39 am)Khemikal Wrote: Of course it can..as demonstrated by the fact that it -has- been?  It's a proposition regarding chemistry - that's pretty natural...and awfully sciencey.

Wink

And what is the definition you use for "natural science"? Is it one that is limited to naturalistic explanations or one that is broader or something else?

Natural science would include anything we found in nature - organic chemistry and biology are well within the remit of whatever limits you seek to impose by implication...and do not qualify as "something else" regardless of whether or not there is a "something else" in the first place - nor would some x being "something else" prevent science from studying it provided that it had an effect on something natural - which......in this case, is the proposal irrespective of anyone's beliefs. If god played in the dirt with organic chemistry to create life, there would be evidence of that in the dirt, the chemistry, and life itself - and as such god would find itself firmly approachable by natural science through it;s demonstrable or falsifiable effects on the natural world.

As an example. If some believer proposed that there was a god that made bananas fall from trees - and we found that this was not the case, that- rather- a biological process related of fruiting bodies caused this seperation - then The God Of Making Bananas Fall From Trees has been falsified. In common parlance, it simply doesn't exist. He can protest that his god is supernatural, "other"..or that science is somehow limited to studying the banana...but none of this will change the fact that the Banana God is not where he said it was, nor does it do what he said it did. He'll have to change his proposition to Some Other God - that ones DOA.

The only way to escape the horrible grasp of science ( Wink ), in the end, is to propose a god that has absolutely no effect on the natural world - our world.
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RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2017 at 10:23 am

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