RE: Organic Molecules Found 400 Light Years From Earth
August 16, 2017 at 12:25 pm
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2017 at 12:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 16, 2017 at 11:23 am)rjh4 is back Wrote: And what exactly would that evidence be that God would leave? In other words, whatever evidence you do find, on what basis would you be able to classify the evidence as having been left by God or not left by God? How would you be able to tell the difference?That's not my responsibility to determine - it would be based upon any given believers own claims. In the Case of Banana God, the evidence of a god would be the bananas falling from the trees - but upon closer inspection that's just a product of a growth hormone.... so unless his god is "a growth hormone" -which, if you'll recall..it isn't......then he's flat out out wrong, his god has been falsified.
Your god....btw, is said to have done a great many things that never happened. It's on you to propose and revise whatever god claim you accept to provide confirmation or escape falsification. IOW, not my baby, you feed it.
Quote:Has it? How? How can you tell the difference between a purely natural/biological result and a result that happens in nature (we observe it) that is caused by God? By what standard do you make that distinction? If you cannot make that distinction, how can you say "The God Of Making Bananas Fall From Trees has been falsified"?Because the bananas do not fall for the reason stated. His proposition was factually incorrect and his conclusion logically false. Its a growth hormone, not a god, that causes bananas to fall from trees. If he wants to then say "Well, Banana God causes the growth hormone" - then..firstly, he should have said that to begin with..and secondly..we'll look into that. Guess what we'll find?
Quote:Or there is a God in control of all that happens in the world?Nope, but it is my position that reading off the apologist checklist is tedious and boring......as is playing whack a mole with god's of the gaps. Perhaps you would like to point to some specific thing that god controls? It shouldn;t be hard, since god controls everything. Did god, for example, make me shit on your comments up above and all throughout the thread? Was he trying to teach you something? Legit question...because unless god is my puppeteer...the proposition "perhaps there is a god in control of all that happens" is false on it's face, and so, The God In Control of Everything has been falsified. No science required, just a modest amount of rational thought. What do you think?
Is it your position that science is the only way to evaluate any claim?
The value of science, btw, is in generating sound propositions for rational inference. That's the whole point - that's how it works and why we do it. Without sound propositions, even a valid argument is entirely uninformative.
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