(July 15, 2017 at 7:18 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(July 15, 2017 at 6:00 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Self-evident means that something doesn't need to be demonstrated. But it still can be demonstrated. In order for god to be self-evident he still needs evidence of his existence. Since there is no evidence of his existence, god is not self-evident.Well, may someday this situation or something similar will happen that would demonstrate via the physical senses, then your ilk will believe.
If a physical entity with the appearance of personhood were to materialize on the White House lawn and while saying “I’m God” (loud enough that it was recorded) levitated a foot above the ground, would that constitute proof that God is not hidden? As the Secret Service approached, this entity asked one agent to place his hand onto the entity’s shoulder which the agent did, thus making the entity to disappear. Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘Yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it became, much like orange blossoms’.
If that happened, was recorded, had evidence that it was authentic rather than fake, then I would certainly be re-evaluating my beliefs. Of course it could be god, or an alien, maybe even the devil come to deceive you? But I would definitely be considering it.
(July 15, 2017 at 7:34 pm)Godscreated Wrote:(July 15, 2017 at 12:19 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: If you can't prove it you can't say it's true, nor get upset when others don't believe you. If you can't prove it, why are you even here? Everything you have said is meaningless without proof.
You say God doesn't exist yet you give no proof and you have none either. The proof I have is between God and myself. Anyone can have this proof if the accept Christ as their savior and start living in a real relationship with Him. It's not for me to give you or anyone else proof of God, as I said the scriptures tell me to give and account of what I believe and then the rest is for the triune God to do.
GC
Do you believe leprechauns exist? The Loch Ness Monster? Bigfoot? Unicorns? If you don't believe, give me the evidence that they don't exist. If the evidence of god is such that it can't be demonstrated by one person to another, it isn't actually evidence. If the evidence is between you and god, then keep it between you and god. There's no point in you being here.