Is the Holy Spirit Misleading You?

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No.  He didn't change his mind.  He had a purpose for doing what he did under the old covenant and for what he did under the new covenant.  And he did mess with poor Job, but how did Job come out in the whole scheme of things?  Based on your ideas of eternity, you'll come away with entirely different interpretations of God actions and motives.  God did act wrathfully with people before Christ.  That's what Jesus took upon himself for us on the cross.

Uh, apparently he did. You don't get to change definitions because it suits you. And are you seriously trying to justify what he did to Job? The fact that he doesn't give a half a fuck about informed consent tells you how little he regards us, and how primitive the whole damn premise is. "Hey, Joby-Job! My man! What's shaking, dawg? Listen, I'm an insecure dickhole and I want to prove to yet another one of my creations that didn't quite pan out the way I intended even though I have full control over how I construct them, that if I do some really sick, twisted, me-awful shit to you, you'll still not only believe in me, but continue praising me for my glory. Well, I mean, like, I'll have your property destroyed, I'll have some thugs come in and butcher all your relatives and servants and livestock, and...oh, no, ha ha, I'm not even close to done yet, bro, listen to this: I'm going to make you sick as fuck and writhe in pain from sores and boils all over your body. Yeah, I know, sounds fucked as hell, dunnit? But I'm gonna do it anyway, and all I need is your go-ahead. What do you get in return? Hey, fuck you, man, I don't owe you shit. Well, I guess fair's fair though, so I'll replace everything you lost and then some, 'kay? So whaddaya say, sport?" Tell me a story about a god who offers Job this chance to decline torment and you'll have created a god superior to the one you currently believe in. I hope you're proud of yourself.

In this way, we have way, way more misplaced faith in that prick than he has in us and it's hard to figure out why no one's caught on to that. And it's a shame about those poor fucks who died in the flood since god wasn't ready to say, you know what, fuck it, I'll forgive them, except I have to show them how much I hate them first by burning one of them in effigy to expiate all those sins I programmed into them but blame on them, but since I'm such a nice guy who would never do anything to a guy like Job (LOL, j/k) I'll make myself into one of them for a bit and suffer it even though hundreds of people get crucified and my bad weekend ain't that damn impressive. That'll show me how cool I am. Me! Me! Me! Whoo! Oh, wait, they didn't burn my human body...I like the smell of charred human flesh...well, that was a waste. Meh, might as well completely reverse the whole idea of dying and bring myself back to life before I yank it back up here.

I mean, have you seriously never considered how fucked up the whole Jesus thing is? God creates us this way and yet condemns us for his own fuck-up, torments us for centuries in one way or another until he gets the bright idea to perform a completely unnecessary act of barbaric human sacrifice, which he could have chosen simply not to do and forgiven us (and admitted his own abominable and unpardonable wrongdoing) for something which isn't even our fault in the first place, and hell, even delivered clearly and without a shred of ambiguity a message he wished to convey. This is the most vile, inept version of a god I've ever fucking heard of, and yet it's the most popular mainstream flavor on earth.

To quote Richard Dawkins on this wretched lunacy: Barking mad.

During WWII American soldiers were told to kill German soldiers. After WWII they were no longer told to kill German soldiers. No one changed their minds, but the situation changed. I previously mentioned that our view of eternity effects our view of situations. Your view of Job's story was that his reward was to get a whole of stuff back. I see his reward for following God as eternal life with him. How do you think our suffering, combined with our faithfulness to God, effects the entirety of our existence? I'm sure you think suffering just makes things worse because you don't believe in existence after the death of our earthly bodies. You may think you don't deserve any punishment, but look around you at the rest of us.

As far as Richard Dawkins is concerned, I'm not really that interested in what he thinks. Of course he thinks all theists are crazy; the same as non-believers thought of christians in the early church. It's not something that sits well with those who believe as he does. I think he's crazy, so that makes us even in that regard.