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No Trans In The Military Says Trump
RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(July 27, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(July 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm)Shell B Wrote: Neo, I agree mostly. I'd add the caveat that if a certain group of people did affect the battle-readiness of a unit, but that group is able to perform other duties, they should be able to serve in those capacities. The military needs pencil pushers.

And the nature of the military is changing too. A drone does care who's at the controls. Nevertheless there may be other considerations - people with any  condition, from a compromised immune system to suicidal tendencies, shouldn't be serving if  their condition requires disproportionate medical monitoring. Everything is fine when people are on a base. But the military needs to plan for the most extreme circumstances of war, such as when troops (even a drone operator or pencil pusher) are trapped behind enemy lines for long periods of time, hungry, exhausted, exposed to harsh environmental conditions, and without medical supplies or support. Maybe, someone is fine to serve as long as he has a steady supply of Zoloft (or whatever), but what about when the meds run out and he's still responsible for military grade weapons.

I was mostly referring to permanent stateside posts. Not everyone gets deployed. As for mentally ill people, that's an entirely different story. There are too many different disorders to have a meaningful conversation about it in a broad sense.

(July 27, 2017 at 2:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: We just have to trust that they will form their decision objectively based on what is best for the effectivrness of the military, not based on political correctness or on prejudice against trans folks.

I'm never going to "just trust" anyone in a position of power. They're going to have to prove they can be trusted first. They haven't yet.
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