Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.

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I don't think that calling homosexuality a mental illness is anywhere near as bad as calling it evil.

Bipolar is a mental illness . . . and saying Bipolar was "evil" would be a lot worse.

And not just because Bipolar actually is a mental illness. Imagine someone who thought all mental illnesses were "evil" that would be a lot worse.

Again . . . that's not just because the reality is actual mental illness are actually mental illness. Imagine if someone thought wearing top hats was a mental illness. It's obviously not. But that's not as bad as thinking anyone who wears top hats are evil and should be punished.

The fact Atlas thinks homosexuality is an illness makes him ignorant and it means he has prejudiced and bigoted views... but I don't think it's as bad as someone like MK who says it's "evil".

It's still bad to think it's a mental illness because that's to say that homosexuality needs curing or fixing when it's just as healthy as heterosexuality. It's definitely bad and harmful for Atlas to have that view . . . and it discriminates against homosexuals. But I do think that believing such a thing is a lesser evil than thinking homosexuals are evil. Perhaps Atlas's heart is in the right place and he really does believe homosexuality is unnatural and unhealthy. That's a harmful view but you can't say someone who thinks homosexuality is evil has their heart in the right place. The difference is that saying homosexuality is "evil" is to demonize homosexuals and treat them as subhuman.

And at least viewing homosexuality as an illness is a view more likely to be corrected by scientific indicates otherwise and demonstrates that homosexuality is completely healthy. But it's hard to make a logical argument or provide scientific evidence against anyone who says something is "evil" because their premise is often just their own aversion rather than being ignorant of the facts. You can correct any facts they like and they'll just assert that it's evil because magic book or whatever.

It's still a very immoral, bigoted and prejudiced view of course. But I wouldn't argue that it's as bad.

Freedom of opinion must allow me to judge the act according to my beliefs and personal investigations; I'm a bigot if I begin to hurt other directly with my opinion. But my opinion about homosexuality is a personal opinion; applied on me by me; and I don't force it on anybody else.

The whole issue in referring to this as an illness, that it's hard to digest. But it's ignorant for real, to think that a mental path that got formed through different experiences and different environments, is a "bigoted description".

But how can I describe my personal experience; then? If I shut up because of somebody; then that is just my right to express myself got stepped on; and that is the de-facto bigoted method; suppressing the voice of the minority. I'm not hurting anybody with my opinion at least. And people should seriously cut the ego off, and stop treating the word "mental" as "crazy".

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It's bad enough that society likes placing labels on as many people as possible. The last thing the gay community needs is a label announcing to the world that gay people have a mental disorder simply because of who they are. So no - I do not buy the argument that calling it a mental disorder isn't a bad as saying it's evil. Both are unnecessary in my opinion.

When the Quran came; God didn't order humanity to live the "Roman city" life, a life full of theaters and gladiators and..gossip, but it said this to humans this:

Sura 49, The Quran:
( 12 )   O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin. And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.

A person living to watch what others did is a lowlife; if you ask me. You only observe others to learn; to make lovers; to make friends; but practicing negative assumption, gossip and so.

But what do I do, if a dictatorship like the Sauds, enforced an oppressive religious system to keep control over schools so people never revolt; and the aftermath of that is the prevention of male and female interaction until sex becomes a same gender thing?

Sunni/Shiite Muslims are the first cause of homosexuality in the region. And when it takes place; they stone the gay couple.
But still; they get to flirt with Ivanka Trump as a royal family; while we fuck each other for pleasure; or even fuck goats to get off.

I can't ignore my experience and move with what so many say. If I did so earlier; I wouldn't be here.

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Yeah it's still awful because discriminating and being intolerant against gays under the label of "treatment" isn't much better. It's still discrimination and intolerance.

I just think that labeling homosexuality as "evil" is even worse because that kind of attitude is more likely to lead to violence and hate. Which is a step further than intolerance and discrimination.

The person who harass you because you take it from the ass is a bully.
The person who french-kiss his boyfriend inside a mosque is a bully.

Both are inconsiderate, both are assholes.