RE: Mental torture
January 15, 2018 at 5:43 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2018 at 5:45 pm by GrandizerII.)
(January 15, 2018 at 11:13 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(January 15, 2018 at 9:26 am)Grandizer Wrote: It's not something you explain with elaborate logical argumentation. It's just sick and barbaric in the same way I view other forms of torture as sick and barbaric (or actually, even worse). I can't convince you that it is, but then again, not my problem. I'm just glad I'm out of that mess of Christian apologetic nonsense.
So then it sounds like I was correct then, it is more of an emotional issue, rather than a rational one.
This is naturally more difficult to discuss. It's subjective, and thus varies from person to person with no connection between them. It can oppose reason, with little backing it. It's not even really supported.
I do often find, in regards to this subject, many people's objections seem more fitting to a cartoon, rather than the Bible. For instance while I don't think torture is completely incorrect as a translation , I sometimes see it giving people the wrong idea. I would describe it more in terms of torment, and separation from God as a consequence of sin.
The main thing is that you don't let your feelings determine what you view as reality (that would be insane). It really doesn't mean any more, than a Christian objecting to an atheistic annihilationism, because they feel strongly against it's lack of justice. Your feelings against it does not effect objective truth, and while they may be useful as a quick guide, if you cannot ground them in something greater, you may want to look at them closer
Like I said, if you dont see anything wrong with divinely sanctioned eternal torment (or mental torture) then theres nothing I can say to make you see otherwise.
Your post also highlights one of the major problems with divine morality. Its not grounded in reasoning or healthy emotional thinking.