RE: Very short argument for God (another clear proof)
January 22, 2018 at 3:06 am
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2018 at 3:11 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 22, 2018 at 1:57 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:Technically? While the overall context of the argument is, as you pint out, an argument from ignorance...the specific non sequitur in his formulation was an affirmation of the consequent. A failure to identify necessary and sufficient condition in the conclusion, coupled with a reaffirmation of an uninformative premise in relation to the conclusion. Your taffy example demonstrates that well. Another simple one;(January 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Among the arguments I know conclusively proves God: "goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality" and since we know it's possible it originates from God while we don't know it's possible it originates from anything else, it's proven to be from God.
I tried expressing this formally. This is what I came up with. MK, feel free correct any errors I might have made.
1. Goodness in all possible worlds has one definition and reality.
2. We know it's possible goodness originates from God.
3. We don't know it's possible it originates from anything else.
Therefore, goodness is proven to be from God.
Let's just assume all the premises are true so we can examine the logic. I don't think this follows. Premise 2 and 3 do nothing to support the conclusion. Let's plug in some different variables.
2. We know it's possible the taffy originates from the local candy factory.
3. We don't know it's possible it originates from anywhere else.
Therefore, the taffy is proven to be from the local candy factory.
I think you have an argument from ignorance here. I could be wrong, but the fact remains this does not follow. Anyone care to figure out which fallacy?
Ducks are birds. Ducks swim in the water. Chickens are birds. Therefore chickens swim in the water.
While it may be true that ducks are birds...as it may be true that there is some specific and singular definition of goodness...
While it may be true that ducks swim in the water, as it may be true that it's at least possible for some goodness to come from a god.....
That does not mean that because something is goodness it comes from a god, any more than a chicken being a bird means it swims in the water like a duck.
Not only is the conclusion a malformed reaffirmation of the second premise itself..it certainly does not follow from that malformed premise that there is a god or that there are marine chickens.
:cue babbling about gods face and his light and his appointed earthly princes and demon locks on kaffir hearts:
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