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God does not determine right and wrong
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RE: God does not determine right and wrong
(February 1, 2018 at 9:28 pm)Magilla Wrote:  So in advance they have judged the god that they find, then they declare that they have found it.

That self same standard is then employed in making said god "fit" with whatever they were already looking for.  It;s not difficult to understand why, or how, this happens.  It would be an amazing coincidence if some ancient writer got it right by anything more than the most general of measure with regards to some modern persons standards.  We all have opur ticks, my ticks are not their ticks nor are they the ticks of that ancient writer, and so all gods get personal refinements in spite of magic books descriptions.  Without them, they wouldn't be "right"..or even marginally compelling.  

That's why I always suggest to people, if they believe in a blood god..to at least entertain the notion that they do so because they -want- a bloodgod.  Whatever peace they have to make with themselves on that count is their own business, but entirely more useful and wholly more self aware than the endless parade of bullshit presented to everyone on earth, themselves included, called apologetics.

A creationist doesn't -want- to be "just an animal"..conveniently, their god says that they are not, regardless of that being a distinction that makes no difference.  A person who believes in hell -wants- there to be a hell, either to contain themselves or to contain others, and this is regardless of whether or not there is one.  A person who doesn't want to die is entirely likely to believe in a god that offers eternal life..while a person who wishes only for a dreamless sleep imagines a god that will grant them precisely that..and then seeks to find one "out there" in the world.  Often enough, people with all of these competing and contradictory desires for god arrive at the same gods..to the amazement of non-believers and other believers alike.

We hear this all the time, though I don't think that many believers actually make the connection, when we're treated to anything along the lines of "if there where no god, I would wish that there were".  Well, ofc they do..and that's a big part of why..for them, there is..why they went searching for one..and why they "found" the one they did.
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God does not determine right and wrong - by Alexmahone - January 26, 2018 at 11:25 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Catholic_Lady - January 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 9:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 11:04 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 7:52 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 8:48 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by bennyboy - January 27, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Brian37 - January 29, 2018 at 7:35 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 1:22 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 1:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 8:14 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by brewer - January 27, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 8:52 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - January 27, 2018 at 2:02 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - January 27, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 10:32 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - January 29, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:23 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - February 1, 2018 at 11:46 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - January 27, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 8, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 9, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 8, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 11:09 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by SteveII - January 27, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Whateverist - January 27, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by brewer - January 27, 2018 at 8:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 9:01 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 2:31 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 28, 2018 at 3:31 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 28, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 7:30 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:38 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 7:43 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 1, 2018 at 7:45 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - February 1, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:28 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:36 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Mister Agenda - February 2, 2018 at 11:21 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 28, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 11:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Mr.wizard - January 28, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Cinjin - January 28, 2018 at 1:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Ignorant - January 29, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - January 29, 2018 at 7:47 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 8:32 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Catholic_Lady - January 29, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - January 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Brian37 - January 29, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Whateverist - January 29, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 1, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 3, 2018 at 2:21 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 3:22 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2018 at 10:53 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - February 2, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - February 2, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:33 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - February 2, 2018 at 7:23 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 3, 2018 at 8:47 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Jeezypete - February 4, 2018 at 2:23 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Succubus - February 4, 2018 at 6:14 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by John V - February 8, 2018 at 7:19 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 8, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by John V - February 8, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 8, 2018 at 2:55 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 6:23 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Imabeliever - February 12, 2018 at 5:22 pm

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