RE: Rebellion against god
February 28, 2018 at 10:21 am
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2018 at 10:39 am by drfuzzy.)
Ok, I wasn't getting the quote function to work well, and this response was getting really long and messy. So I just "cherry-picked" statements from Banned and did a cut 'n' paste. I hope nobody minds.
Banned
"There are people who work in areas of solving crimes where evidence is seemingly non existent. "Seeing is believing" has its limits." That's utterly moronic. "seemingly" non-existent. And then they find measurable data.
"The universe is one open display of God's character. Either you pick up on his character in nature, or you don't." The universe is one open display of the magical teapot that circles the Earth. Either you can see it or you're evil. Seriously, science has very clearly shown that nature gives no evidence of a deity whatsoever.
"So how is death not part of the atheist world? Isn't your world going to end under the sun? Isn't every life form just a pointless spat? As if believers bought about the threat of death." No, we're all going to die, and that's a fact. We don't need any fantasy of an afterlife to accept that fact. The afterlife belief is a combination of terror and ego - fear of death, and the unwillingness to accept the idea of a universe going on without them in it.
"The Bible is written in English, and language like maths has its rules. Once those rules are broken, it's not a valid interpretation." The Bible ARRIVED at English after many, many translations and re-interpretations. You're starting to sound like the preacher who told me that he used "thee" and "thou" when he prayed because "we have to talk to Jesus in his own language!" Yeah, I bit my tongue and refrained from telling him that "thee" and "thou" aren't Aramaic words. You can't argue with that type of stupid. As you so impressively have demonstrated here. And comparing a book of fairy tales to lovely, clean, logical math is . . . wow, that's the difference between a toddler making a mess in the kitchen to a team of research chemists at work and saying they're the same.
"The Bible could not be plainer and clearer on that issue. An understanding of the geart controversy between God and Satan, shows that the truth is constantly under attack from deception and force." The Bible is an ignorant work of fiction about fantasy characters. God and Satan are major players. This does not mean they exist. How would you like it if I was accusing you of closed-mindedness because you don't believe that Hogwarts exists? Voldemort is coming for you!!!
"Don't worry, God will turn up, That is what an Adventist hopes in. Will you know who he is and be happy to see him, or will you be clinging to your hellish ideas about God, and be waiting with a set of test tubes and a band of clip board warriors?" Cameras. Scientists. Clip-boards and computers. Yep. Even if it can fly and re-grow amputated limbs, it might not be a deity.
"Did I ever ask you to believe in something that doesn't exist in your mind? That would have been unfair. I'm sorry."
Oh right, you're SORRY. You have spent almost 400 posts insulting us and now THIS.
Hmm, now just what have you asked us to believe that we don't believe exists? Could it be . . . A GOD? And the idea that the Bible tells us about a GOD? And the idea that there is an afterlife and if we don't believe in YOUR GOD we're going to be tortured forever?
He's SORRY folks. Really sorry.
Banned
"There are people who work in areas of solving crimes where evidence is seemingly non existent. "Seeing is believing" has its limits." That's utterly moronic. "seemingly" non-existent. And then they find measurable data.
"The universe is one open display of God's character. Either you pick up on his character in nature, or you don't." The universe is one open display of the magical teapot that circles the Earth. Either you can see it or you're evil. Seriously, science has very clearly shown that nature gives no evidence of a deity whatsoever.
"So how is death not part of the atheist world? Isn't your world going to end under the sun? Isn't every life form just a pointless spat? As if believers bought about the threat of death." No, we're all going to die, and that's a fact. We don't need any fantasy of an afterlife to accept that fact. The afterlife belief is a combination of terror and ego - fear of death, and the unwillingness to accept the idea of a universe going on without them in it.
"The Bible is written in English, and language like maths has its rules. Once those rules are broken, it's not a valid interpretation." The Bible ARRIVED at English after many, many translations and re-interpretations. You're starting to sound like the preacher who told me that he used "thee" and "thou" when he prayed because "we have to talk to Jesus in his own language!" Yeah, I bit my tongue and refrained from telling him that "thee" and "thou" aren't Aramaic words. You can't argue with that type of stupid. As you so impressively have demonstrated here. And comparing a book of fairy tales to lovely, clean, logical math is . . . wow, that's the difference between a toddler making a mess in the kitchen to a team of research chemists at work and saying they're the same.
"The Bible could not be plainer and clearer on that issue. An understanding of the geart controversy between God and Satan, shows that the truth is constantly under attack from deception and force." The Bible is an ignorant work of fiction about fantasy characters. God and Satan are major players. This does not mean they exist. How would you like it if I was accusing you of closed-mindedness because you don't believe that Hogwarts exists? Voldemort is coming for you!!!
"Don't worry, God will turn up, That is what an Adventist hopes in. Will you know who he is and be happy to see him, or will you be clinging to your hellish ideas about God, and be waiting with a set of test tubes and a band of clip board warriors?" Cameras. Scientists. Clip-boards and computers. Yep. Even if it can fly and re-grow amputated limbs, it might not be a deity.
"Did I ever ask you to believe in something that doesn't exist in your mind? That would have been unfair. I'm sorry."
Oh right, you're SORRY. You have spent almost 400 posts insulting us and now THIS.
Hmm, now just what have you asked us to believe that we don't believe exists? Could it be . . . A GOD? And the idea that the Bible tells us about a GOD? And the idea that there is an afterlife and if we don't believe in YOUR GOD we're going to be tortured forever?
He's SORRY folks. Really sorry.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
