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Best arguments for and against god you know of?
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Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 7:29 am (This post was last modified: March 24, 2014 at 7:30 am by tor.)
Which are they?
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 8:05 am
Best Argument For God: He is not amenable to logical inquiry, so he probably exists.

Best Argument Against God: He is not amenable to logical inquiry, so he probably doesn't exist.

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 8:13 am
To me best one against is absence of any signs of god.

I don't really have best argument they all suck but the argument from personal experience seems to be pretty powerful but only from the point of view of person having an experience. I guess brains can misbehave.
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 8:24 am
For: "I sez they duz so they duz"

Against: Theistic gods, as defined, cannot possibly exist. Deistic gods, as defined, might as well not exist.
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 8:26 am
(March 24, 2014 at 8:24 am)Ben Davis Wrote: For: "I sez they duz so they duz"

Against: Theistic gods, as defined, cannot possibly exist. Deistic gods, as defined, might as well not exist.

Are you saying that deistic god is useless but can be?
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 8:26 am
You'll find that most arguments for the existence of Gods could apply to unicorns or magic pixies.
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 9:04 am
(March 24, 2014 at 8:26 am)tor Wrote:
(March 24, 2014 at 8:24 am)Ben Davis Wrote: For: "I sez they duz so they duz"

Against: Theistic gods, as defined, cannot possibly exist. Deistic gods, as defined, might as well not exist.

Are you saying that deistic god is useless but can be?
That's the trick with Deism: there's no difference between the attributes of deistic gods and gods which don't exist. So even if they do exist, they're pointless.
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 9:12 am
Best argument against would just be that we haven't seen any evidence of gods, spirits, souls, or any plane of existence aside from the physical one. It's like Bill Nye said, all we really need is evidence. Concrete, indisputable, evidence.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 9:12 am
(March 24, 2014 at 9:12 am)Chad32 Wrote: Best argument against would just be that we haven't seen any evidence of gods, spirits, souls, or any plane of existence aside from the physical one. It's like Bill Nye said, all we really need is evidence. Concrete, indisputable, evidence.

Evidence like what?
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RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 9:47 am
(March 24, 2014 at 9:12 am)tor Wrote:
(March 24, 2014 at 9:12 am)Chad32 Wrote: Best argument against would just be that we haven't seen any evidence of gods, spirits, souls, or any plane of existence aside from the physical one. It's like Bill Nye said, all we really need is evidence. Concrete, indisputable, evidence.

Evidence like what?

Something that breaks physics or can't be explained by natural processes. Funnily enough, one example might be how creationists accuse evolution of working. If a duck hatched from a crocodile egg, that could prove there was something supernatural going on. Or if we had a guy that did the kinds of things Jesus was claimed to do. Raise someone who has been dead for a week. Walk on water. Grow an amputee's leg back.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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