RE: Philosophical zombies
March 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2018 at 12:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
@Rob
We certainly don't know that we're conscious "in the traditional sense"...we know that the vast majority of traditional descriptions were..at the very least.......meaningfully inaccurate.
The traditional sense of consciousness that dennet is responding to is the one based upon animus and spirit and some little man in our heads directing our moves. That there's some centralized "me" "feeling" in the present..seeing, hearing, experiencing, etc. If you agree with multiple drafts..you can't think that's any more true than dennet does. This is why it;s useful to understand what dennet was responding to in his comments...and that's why theres a footnote in his book on the thing that has you hung up.
As a point of interest...why is it that you think science "can't touch it".....touch what, clarity on that?
Illusoryness and unreality are not directly exchangeable for each other. Illusions do, in fact..exist in reality. It's dennets position that some aspects of consciousness are an illusion grounded in a biological reality.
We certainly don't know that we're conscious "in the traditional sense"...we know that the vast majority of traditional descriptions were..at the very least.......meaningfully inaccurate.
The traditional sense of consciousness that dennet is responding to is the one based upon animus and spirit and some little man in our heads directing our moves. That there's some centralized "me" "feeling" in the present..seeing, hearing, experiencing, etc. If you agree with multiple drafts..you can't think that's any more true than dennet does. This is why it;s useful to understand what dennet was responding to in his comments...and that's why theres a footnote in his book on the thing that has you hung up.
As a point of interest...why is it that you think science "can't touch it".....touch what, clarity on that?
Illusoryness and unreality are not directly exchangeable for each other. Illusions do, in fact..exist in reality. It's dennets position that some aspects of consciousness are an illusion grounded in a biological reality.
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