RE: Philosophical zombies
March 3, 2018 at 8:42 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2018 at 8:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 3, 2018 at 8:03 pm)bennyboy Wrote: There are a lot of differences between me and between an Android.Sure, but the p-zombie proposition is explicitly designed to refer to just one, regardless of it;s ability to cogently comment upon it. I propose that there are alot of differences between you and I as well. Between both of us and an android, and between both of us, an android, and some other species of biological intelligence. We likely agree on each item. Different things are, well..different. That's part of what makes the p zombie prop a cognitive trap. It proposes a difference...with no difference.
Quote:I cannot know if an Android really feels, or just uses complex programming and AI algorithms to make it appear that it does.You can either know that or not..but if you cannot know that, then you cannot know that your own consciousness isn't "just complex programming" to make so and so appear so and so..either. Because it;s a problem for your criteria of knowledge, it is a problem for all relevant categories of knowledge equally, or none equally. I can appreciate where you'rte coming from, but, I extend a certain criteria to human beings day in and day out. It wopuld make very little sense for me to come up with some other criteria for extension just because the hand I'm shaking is made of carbon fiber. I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime, I hope my children do. It's a lonely universe, after all, eh?
Quote:Will you allow sufficiently human-seeming Androids full legal protections?Sure, and I'd also shoot at them.
Quote:Allow them to take jobs instead of your children?People will already do this, but sure..and also shoot at them.
Quote:Allow them to "declare as human" and run for president?I wouldn't require that they "declare as human"...but I would also shoot at them.
All of this, to me, is incidental. I do not extend courtesies or acknowledge rights for humans based upon the fact that we have hands or a carbon based biology. I do not extend or provide my support for either because human beings have lumps of meat in their heads. These may, someday, be huge issues for humanity..and I;d propose they;d be huge issues for the same people who now wonder whether or not homosexuals are people who deserve equal rights..whether migrants are people who deserve due process, or whether undesirables are people who deserve to live. That it strikes some of us -as- an issue just might be a condemnation of the human psyche.
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