RE: Philosophical zombies
March 5, 2018 at 10:29 am
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2018 at 10:35 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 5, 2018 at 9:09 am)bennyboy Wrote:We've already allowed every possible connotation of solipsism. The space of discussion for it reaches a terminus with an implied -"but I/we/you/everyone could be wrong" after every single statement. There are probably an infinite number of ways that this statement could be true and all but 1 of them have nothing to do with the truth status of solipsism on the nature of reality or knowledge or consciousness.(March 5, 2018 at 12:05 am)Khemikal Wrote: Solipsism is either a problem or it is not. Either knowledge is accessible or it is not. This has nothing..specifically, to do with whether or not you have an instinct.I think it has everything to do with instinct.
No, the instinct is the reason that we do not embrace solipsism as the extent of actual knowledge. We feel that others are real, and have emotional responses to their facial expressions and mannerisms. It is this which takes me out of solipsism, not any sound philosophical position or spiritual realization.
That is already contained as an implication of all knowledge statements derived from true conclusions. We don't often speak it in common language, but propositional implication formally begins with the term "if". The answer to every "what if not" question is and always will be "then not", no matter what the question refers to.
I suppose your instincts have utility for you, in this regard..but they're not necessary to reach the same conclusion. Having reached it, though, can we dispense with invocations of 100% or 99% certainty as though they represented anything more or less than the common assumption that, if we were wrong, we would be wrong..and that if things were different, they'd be different..... and proceed?
Quote:All jokes aside, something like this could be a thing, perhaps within a lifetime or two.I'm only joking because I think so too. Some people throw stones at the devil. I laugh. We already segregate students based upon IQ. It's voluntary, but a person would have to be a complete mouth breather not to avail themselves of the programs. I'm sure it could start out of something as innocuous as that...even if we never see any smart machines. We may one day decide that the efficient education of exceptional people has practical requirements like faster access to water without any waiting line interrupting the flow of study, lol. If there's a fountain on your hall or floor, but only in-program students are allowed to be on the floor...don't you already have your own private group fountain? See...we're at least halfway there already.
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