RE: Why believe the bible?
July 1, 2018 at 1:45 am
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2018 at 1:46 am by Fake Messiah.)
(June 30, 2018 at 6:57 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: De Waal's own words from a New York Times article.
https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20...thout-god/
Quote:At the same time, however, I am reluctant to call a chimpanzee a “moral being.” This is because sentiments do not suffice. We strive for a logically coherent system, and have debates about how the death penalty fits arguments for the sanctity of life, or whether an unchosen sexual orientation can be wrong. These debates are uniquely human. We have no evidence that other animals judge the appropriateness of actions that do not affect themselves.
That doesn't mean that he thinks chimps don't have any morals. It is like saying that chimps don't have a language, but it doesn't mean that they can't communicate. Because human language is so more complex that chimp's language fades in comparison. Indeed in the video I posted he claims animals have compassion and love and altruism which he calls pillars of morality.
As he writes from the article you cite:
Quote:For example, female chimpanzees have been seen to drag reluctant males towards each other to make up after a fight, removing weapons from their hands, and high-ranking males regularly act as impartial arbiters to settle disputes in the community. I take these hints of community concern as yet another sign that the building blocks of morality are older than humanity, and that we do not need God to explain how we got where we are today.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"