(August 9, 2018 at 10:48 am)Whateverist Wrote:(August 9, 2018 at 10:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: No distortions of whatsoever mate except in your imagination.
The laws of nature are those who establish a balance between the positive and the negative or yin and yang.
That is why the universe exist and will exist in future.
Obviously the FW is bound by the laws of nature.
How else could you pay previous debts otherwise?
These laws are the karma in action that act like a debt collector by forcing you to pay the debt that you incurred in your past so your FW is forced to deal with the karma.
As far as the karma pop up because in the past you took certain decisions with your FW then you can not say that the FW is not free.
Wait. I thought you were challenging the passage the Vulcan quoted from the Bhagavad Gita. So do you agree with what it says or not?
Vulcan got it wrong.
According to him the Bhagavad Gita deny the FW when in reality the Bhagavad Gita does not.
The BG by saying...........The will is bound by the laws of nature it simply means that the WILL has got to deal with the karma but because the karma is caused by previous FW then it is the FW that started the whole process therefore the FW exist.
Of course the FW has causes outside of the human psyche.
These causes are none but the karma which the person will have to deal with.
When you contract a debt with your bank you are also bound to deal with that issue whether you like it or not so your freedom is affected by it.
That is what the BG mean when it say that he will is bound by the laws of nature.
Nothing to do with whether the FW exist or not.