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For those who believe the god of abraham was behind the big bang or evolution
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RE: For those who believe the god of abraham was behind the big bang or evolution
(October 17, 2018 at 6:36 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I think this is the equivalent of believers coming here and telling us what atheism means.  I don't think we get to tell them what they're supposed to believe.  Obviously if they thought about it the way you or I do, they wouldn't be believers.

Personally I find it hopeful if believers can find a way to accept the evidence of their senses and science where that contradicts the bible.  I even know a few who admit they're agnostic but choose to believe what can't be justified anyway.  Frankly I respect this sort so much more than the ones who act all smug and condescending.

I know as a former believer of dogma how stubborn one can be but I posted that comment because believers need to be reminded why they believe in this particular version of god in the first place.

Since no god ever tends to just show his face to everybody, or anymore than one person at a time, believers of any religion can only take the word of those in ancient scripture for it, that this god appeared to these individuals to proclaim his existence, but these few people who claim to have been spoken to by this god are the ones we find in the scriptures making these claims about reality.

People need to spot a false religion when they see prophets and seers saying these things, because if they are the only ones this god ever appeared to and spoke to, a real god that was not a hallucenation would not give these few people such false information about reality. One cannot justify continuing to believe in a version of god who supposably created things and find out the information was all wrong, then reform what was said by the few in the scriptures who claimed he actually appeared to. A god would have to be the one to come and correct these errors if he is in fact real and his followers were just mistaken, for humans to correct these mistakes thousands of years later who dont have burning bush visions, or straight up visions arent doing the religion any justice, only making fools of themselves because they are trying to correct what is obviously a false religion. I just want people to hear this from my perspective. I think what I wrote was much better put than any rebuttle I have ever heard from any atheist I have watched on youtube. Something that will inform the believers better for why they shouldnt trust the word of the men who say this god existed.
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RE: For those who believe the god of abraham was behind the big bang or evolution - by android17ak47 - October 17, 2018 at 6:49 pm

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