RE: Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners
November 19, 2018 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2018 at 1:59 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 19, 2018 at 1:52 pm)tackattack Wrote:Well..yeah, sure......... and? The other option..ofc, is to simply keep the heathens out of the themepark....at no point is there any compulsion to build the lava cesspit slide or force people to slide down one or the other.(November 19, 2018 at 11:56 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Less immoral than a lava cesspit slide? Do you really have to ask?
This notion that..since it allegedly created one super swell choice it just had to create one equally as shitty is more than a little bit absurd. It could have been the choice between heaven and, you know, a sort of humdrum place doing admin work for the heavenly orgy. Some jobs at the theme park are better than others. Could have a heathen contingent of janitors, for example.
No I didn't really have to ask, but I did. Your example is flawed in that the janitors and secretaries are still in the theme park. Let me try a better analogy.
A space ship with eternal gravity is surrounded by eternal antigravity. You can be inside or outside, no in-between because the door is eternally locked after point X in time.
Quote:Whether hell is figurative or literal is moot. Whether suffering is temporary or eternal is moot. Whether it's a furnace or a parking lot is moot. After said X time you will have to live with the consequences of your choice is the point.I'm fine with that. Hell, however, isn't a consequence of any choice of mine. That was gods call...allegedly, lol.
Quote:The point on the morality of an equally shitty choice isn't absurd. After all things that aren't eternal are gone, You have A or B. If A is perfect and everything good, B should be the opposite. I don't see that as being absurd. I'm not even getting into motives with "not wishing that any should perish". I'm still not convinced the creation of Hell is immoral, but I'm open.I don't think that you are. I think that you have a commitment of faith to excusing your god for anything it's done. The lord of creation is beyond our judgement, after all.
-and that's fine.....
.....but it shouldn't be impossible to realize that this is what it is. If you're going to do it, then do it, and just be unapologetic about what you've done. Like a god, and his lava cesspit slide.
Tada. What's the problem?
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