RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away
December 1, 2018 at 3:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2018 at 3:13 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(December 1, 2018 at 3:03 pm)Cherub786 Wrote:(December 1, 2018 at 2:51 pm)Amarok Wrote: Hardly as all he gave them in return is a decades of war and chaos .
I disagree. The Iraqis gave themselves this war and chaos. They could have taken advantage of the golden opportunity that was presented to them, the first Arab country to have the gift of democracy. Instead they chose to launch an insurgency, start a sectarian civil war, ethnically cleanse each other, bomb each other's shrines and mosques, and elect corrupt politicians (Nouri al-Maliki) to loot their coffers.
Of course a lot of the blame lies on external actors. The Saudis, Syrians and Iranians did not want Iraq to succeed from day 1. They infiltrated the country with their proxies to destabilize it. Why? They knew if Iraq becomes a successful democracy, their own people will want the same thing and their autocratic and corrupt rule will be in jeopardy.
You still don’t understand you can not give democracy as a gift.
The best you can do is try to give the facade and the institutions of democracy as a gift.
Facade and Instititution of democracy does not equal democracy.
For many societies, the fact that the facade and institution of democracy is a terrible curse that will wreck the society without giving birth to actual democracy is something they understand because of their on-the-ground experience of their societal world view and deeper societal power structure, but we in our airy conceit can not see from 80,000 feet nor fathom or imagine in our doctrinarian mind.
Democractic facade or institution has either failed or is on life support everywhere in the Middle East. It has never ever midwifed any democracy in that part of the world.