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President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away
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RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away
(December 1, 2018 at 3:15 pm)Amarok Wrote:
(December 1, 2018 at 3:03 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: I disagree. The Iraqis gave themselves this war and chaos. They could have taken advantage of the golden opportunity that was presented to them, the first Arab country to have the gift of democracy. Instead they chose to launch an insurgency, start a sectarian civil war, ethnically cleanse each other, bomb each other's shrines and mosques, and elect corrupt politicians (Nouri al-Maliki) to loot their coffers.

Of course a lot of the blame lies on external actors. The Saudis, Syrians and Iranians did not want Iraq to succeed from day 1. They infiltrated the country with their proxies to destabilize it. Why? They knew if Iraq becomes a successful democracy, their own people will want the same thing and their autocratic and corrupt rule will be in jeopardy.
 The Iraqi's didn't want to be occupied by a foreign military . Nor wanted to be run by American puppets and it was all done under Bush's impotence and blaming other counties for Bush's failure is weak sauce . The Iraqi people owe Bush and America nothing .

Oh please "occupation". Of course there had to be an occupation to ensure that the Baathists were gone for good. How else do you liberate Iraq from a fascist dictatorship. Weren't Japan and Korea briefly occupied by the Americans after WWII? That was a necessary but temporary occupation to ensure that those countries became the fine, blossoming democracies that they are today.

Likewise, the American occupation of Iraq was not lengthy. It lasted only a couple of years. Everyone knew it wasn't a colonization. You are making it out as though America occupied Iraq like how Israel has been occupying the West Bank and Gaza for over a generation. Not that kind of occupation.

And I bet the majority of Syrians would have loved to have the Americans come in and occupy their country briefly to for the purpose of removing another brutal Baathist regime.
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President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Minimalist - December 1, 2018 at 1:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 12:46 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 1, 2018 at 6:21 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 9:04 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 1, 2018 at 9:04 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:40 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 2:51 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Cherub786 - December 1, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:21 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 8:25 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 8:41 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 9:49 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 10:04 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 4, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 8:58 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 9:24 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 9:31 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Cherub786 - December 2, 2018 at 10:10 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Cherub786 - December 2, 2018 at 10:23 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 10:44 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 5, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 2, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Cherub786 - December 2, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 11:00 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 11:59 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 2, 2018 at 12:15 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 3, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 11:46 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 3:48 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by brewer - December 2, 2018 at 6:28 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Belacqua - December 3, 2018 at 7:58 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by brewer - December 3, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 5, 2018 at 4:38 pm

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