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President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away
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RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away
(December 2, 2018 at 10:23 am)Cherub786 Wrote:
(December 2, 2018 at 10:19 am)Brian37 Wrote: In a world of nuclear weapons, to stupidly say we should overthrow any nation we don't like is FUCKING STUPID.

First of all, overthrowing doesn't always require a full on military invasion. Intelligence and stealth can do a lot too. Remember how the CIA overthrew a leftist govt. in Iran circa 1953. And similarly, the CIA did great work in Mesoamerica in containing leftist militias from taking over several states there. The greatest adversaries are Russia and China. As long as these 2 states are relatively stable at home they will pose a threat and expand their influence. You need a new project to destabilize them both from the inside eventually leading to the collapse of those regimes like how the USSR collapsed.


ROFLOL

Ah yes.  

The US attempted to do precisely what you wanted, but yet Putin is still here, Russia is stronger than any time since 1990.  Russia is still in Syria, Russia is still in Ukraine.    For the first time since 1918, traditionally Russophobia conservative Eastern European government in the former Soviet sphere of influence now works hand in glove with Putin to undermine the EU.

In response to what the US attempted to do, and the fact that by trying to do it the US legitimized the action in Russian eyes, the Russians decided to do the same things back to the US.  As a direct result trump is in the whitehouse.  The US is weaker than anytime since 1990.  The pillars of American global influences are all piles of rubble, american domestic conflicts of region, demographics, and face it, flaky ideological political alignments, boiled to the surface as it hasn’t done since the civil war.  There is no prospect of the US returning to the leadership position of any of the global organizations and institutions that underpinned its global influence hitherto.  For the first time since 1918, the main governments in Western Europe that shared America mainstream outlook for the last century decided american is not to be trusted.

So, it appears the course of Overthrowning noxious regime in the world out of a sense of righteousness does not seem to cause the noxious regimes too much inconvenience, but it does seem to put the righteous regime onto a path of isolation, collapse and self immolation.
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President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Minimalist - December 1, 2018 at 1:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 12:46 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 1, 2018 at 6:21 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 9:04 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 1, 2018 at 9:04 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 1, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:40 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 2:51 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:21 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 1, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 8:25 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 8:41 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 9:49 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 10:04 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 4, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 8:58 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 9:24 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 9:31 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Cherub786 - December 2, 2018 at 10:10 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Cherub786 - December 2, 2018 at 10:23 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 10:44 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Anomalocaris - December 2, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 5, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 2, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Cherub786 - December 2, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 11:00 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Brian37 - December 2, 2018 at 11:59 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 2, 2018 at 12:15 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Angrboda - December 3, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 11:46 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Amarok - December 2, 2018 at 3:48 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by brewer - December 2, 2018 at 6:28 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by Belacqua - December 3, 2018 at 7:58 am
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by brewer - December 3, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: President Bush The Smarter Has Passed Away - by GUBU - December 5, 2018 at 4:38 pm

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