RE: Have you met people criticizing atheists who use the expression OMG
March 15, 2019 at 10:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2019 at 10:40 pm by fredd bear.)
(March 15, 2019 at 10:12 pm)Yonadav Wrote:(March 15, 2019 at 9:24 pm)fredd bear Wrote: ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((9)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I understood the context. However, wasn't aware of how Jesus is seen by orthodox Jewry.
Makes perfect sense ; Jesus' followers claimed he was the son of G-d and worshipped him. For that reason alone he was obviously not the Moshiach.. Mr understanding is that the Moshiach will be a warrior priest in the Davidic tradition , will not be divine, and will not die prematurely --That before you get anywhere near ushering in a period of world peace.
The most appropriate word I can think of to describe Christian claims that Jesus was the messiah is "chutzpah".
The real chutzpah is trying to get us to call him c-h-r-i-s-t, which is literally like trying to get us to acknowledge him as our king.
The classic description of chutzpah is a man who murders both of his parents and then tells the judge that he should be lenient with him because he is an orphan.
King? As in 'christ' = christos= ' anointed one' ?
You know, I had never thought of that. But then, Catholic religious education is a bit unusual. Although not not officially not allowed to read the bible, it was all but actively discouraged. I read both books when I was 16. That was because one of the brothers told me I really shouldn't. I soon understood why; some of the more fatuous claims made by Catholics (such as papal infallibility) don't seem to have quite the scriptural authority claimed.
Reading the bible raised a whole lot of big questions for me. My teachers would say:"That's a mystery of faith, we just believe" I would think that is the antithesis of Talmudic tradition.
Later my entire class was sent on "retreat'' with trained theologians. They gave me the company line. When I still had questions I was referred to Thomas Aquinas. ----and a fat lot of good he was; writing things like "You believe everything or nothing".