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Help me not fear heaven/hell
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell
(March 16, 2019 at 4:34 pm)Fleeing Jesus Wrote: Hey, everyone. I thought I’d ask for some help here.

I was raised Christian but don’t believe in god anymore. I think it’s all nonsense. We’re on this pale blue dot alone. I believe in science and reason.

The problem is my atheism is only at 99%. There’s 1% of me that still thinks I could be wrong and that I’m going to hell for being a bad person. I’m also afraid of the idea of endless life, mostly because I struggle with anxiety and the idea of eternal anxiety in heaven is my idea of hell.

Can anyone help me unhinge the last 1% so that I’m not afraid of heaven and hell anymore? It would mean the world to me. I’d like to not have this hang over me for the rest of my life.

- Fleeing Jesus
  
Recovering Catholic here.  Welcome to the forum. Buckle your seat belt, things can get a bit bumpy.  Cool

I empathise with your position.

Neither the existence nor non existence of god is provable.----at least so far, no one has managed either in recorded history

I hoe you will never be 100% certain of anything.  In my opinion. only a fool is 100% certain of anything. To be100% certain god does not exist  is to be as arrogant and closed  minded as some of  the fundamentalist Christian apologists you will see here.


I guess that wasn't very helpful. Below is a link to part of a 1948 radio debate. The debate  is on the existence of god. The opponents are Bertrand Russell, arguably the best philosopher of the twentieth century(atheist) and Frederick Copleton,  Jesuit, top catholic theologian of his day. The clip is edited ,so only 18 minutes You may find it challenging, it's a bit intense, but worth the trouble I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXPdpEJk78E
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Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fleeing Jesus - March 16, 2019 at 4:34 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by chimp3 - March 16, 2019 at 4:57 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by no one - March 16, 2019 at 5:38 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Amarok - March 16, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by purplepurpose - March 16, 2019 at 6:03 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by brewer - March 16, 2019 at 6:05 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Belacqua - March 16, 2019 at 6:09 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 16, 2019 at 6:18 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Losty - March 16, 2019 at 6:25 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 2:07 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fake Messiah - March 17, 2019 at 3:04 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fleeing Jesus - March 16, 2019 at 8:06 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - March 17, 2019 at 1:23 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 2:03 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Nay_Sayer - March 17, 2019 at 2:24 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 2:26 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Nay_Sayer - March 17, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2019 at 4:37 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 4:46 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Losty - March 16, 2019 at 6:27 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 6:34 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fireball - March 16, 2019 at 6:45 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Belacqua - March 16, 2019 at 6:58 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Losty - March 16, 2019 at 7:07 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 7:35 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by brewer - March 16, 2019 at 7:46 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by arewethereyet - March 16, 2019 at 8:50 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Belacqua - March 16, 2019 at 9:41 pm
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Rahn127 - March 16, 2019 at 8:47 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 17, 2019 at 12:25 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by purplepurpose - March 17, 2019 at 5:37 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Deesse23 - March 17, 2019 at 5:43 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by downbeatplumb - March 17, 2019 at 6:12 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by chimp3 - March 17, 2019 at 11:14 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fireball - March 17, 2019 at 12:39 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by chimp3 - March 17, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fleeing Jesus - March 17, 2019 at 1:35 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2019 at 1:47 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by purplepurpose - March 17, 2019 at 2:18 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 2:20 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by purplepurpose - March 17, 2019 at 2:23 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - March 17, 2019 at 2:33 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 2:38 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by chimp3 - March 17, 2019 at 2:58 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by brewer - March 17, 2019 at 10:17 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fleeing Jesus - March 18, 2019 at 7:26 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by EgoDeath - March 19, 2019 at 4:21 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Fleeing Jesus - March 19, 2019 at 8:45 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 20, 2019 at 12:38 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by EgoDeath - March 20, 2019 at 4:31 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2019 at 1:31 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2019 at 6:10 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 11:36 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - March 17, 2019 at 11:58 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 18, 2019 at 12:50 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - March 18, 2019 at 12:40 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 17, 2019 at 10:43 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 17, 2019 at 11:21 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 17, 2019 at 11:23 pm
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by EgoDeath - March 18, 2019 at 1:44 pm
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Rahn127 - March 19, 2019 at 7:57 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - March 19, 2019 at 11:27 am
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - March 19, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2019 at 8:52 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2019 at 4:36 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 20, 2019 at 5:46 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by snowtracks - March 25, 2019 at 3:34 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2019 at 7:13 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 25, 2019 at 9:17 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - March 25, 2019 at 12:15 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 25, 2019 at 4:14 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Simon Moon - March 26, 2019 at 12:04 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - April 1, 2019 at 6:38 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Belacqua - April 1, 2019 at 6:49 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by brewer - March 25, 2019 at 12:33 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by snowtracks - March 26, 2019 at 11:08 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Nay_Sayer - March 27, 2019 at 12:06 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 27, 2019 at 12:24 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - April 1, 2019 at 6:56 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2019 at 9:22 am
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 26, 2019 at 9:00 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 26, 2019 at 11:41 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2019 at 12:03 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2019 at 12:09 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 26, 2019 at 1:01 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2019 at 1:20 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2019 at 8:44 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 27, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by snowtracks - March 27, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 27, 2019 at 2:31 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2019 at 2:57 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 27, 2019 at 4:02 pm
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2019 at 4:38 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2019 at 5:32 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 27, 2019 at 5:41 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 27, 2019 at 5:59 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 27, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2019 at 7:34 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - March 28, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2019 at 6:55 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - April 1, 2019 at 2:22 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by fredd bear - March 28, 2019 at 8:08 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - April 1, 2019 at 8:47 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - April 1, 2019 at 6:40 pm
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - April 3, 2019 at 1:45 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Abaddon_ire - April 3, 2019 at 7:35 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by Catharsis - April 3, 2019 at 10:04 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2019 at 9:04 am
RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - April 1, 2019 at 9:06 am
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by tackattack - April 1, 2019 at 10:25 pm
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RE: Help me not fear heaven/hell - by snowtracks - June 18, 2019 at 3:36 am
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