RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 10, 2019 at 10:53 am
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2019 at 12:07 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(April 9, 2019 at 10:48 am)Acrobat Wrote:(April 9, 2019 at 10:24 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Then I suppose it’s s good thing I’m not putting forth an argument for nihilism. I’m pointing out that appealing to things like love, empathy, and meaning as evidence for god is an argument from ignorance. These things are not problems or puzzles of the natural world that need solving.
Then we have a problem. I’m not putting forth an argument against evolution, or the natural world. I’m putting forth an argument against nihilism, since you asked why nihilism makes less sense of such things.
Again, people can find meaning in their lives without their being some objective meaning spun into place by a god. Even if god created people and assigned meaning to everyone’s existence, it’d still be subjective meaning; it would be the meaning god decided on.
Quote:...what?
Quote:Imagine if I gave you an infinite amount of traditional legos, and gave you an infinite amount of time, and tasked you with making me a working iPhone. You couldn’t. Because no matter how many endless combinations you could assemble, none of them could result in a working iPhone. The reason being, is because legos lack the potential to be iPhones. You may actualize an endless variety of lego combinations, but since the lego blocks lack the potential to become an iPhone, you are not able to make one.
Evolution like yourself in this example actualizes certain potentials of matter (lego blocks). But the potential is a feature inherent to the raw material/matter itself. Absent of such potentials none of this is possible.
Sure...okay. No objections to the above.
Quote:That’s a bizarrely formed question. How does it follow that because we seek something to live for, therefore objective meaning and god exist?
Quote:It’s a pretty straightforward question. And it was related to your question as to why nihilism makes less sense.
Does nihilism make better sense in a reality absent of a desire for meaning, or one in which such a desire exists?
The answer is, it makes better sense in a reality absent of such a desire, then one like ours where such a desire exists. If reality possess meaning, it makes sense why creatures like ourselves would desire to find it, or seek it. Why we’re not merely seeking for ways to survive and reproduce, but in finding something to live for.
Sure, so again, I’m not sure what this has to do with objective meaning, or a god. If your offering up a human desire for meaning as an argument for objective meaning, then you’re simply arguing in a circle. My life have meaning to to me. Why does there need to be some assignment of meaning to my life by someone else?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.