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Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
(February 18, 2020 at 3:56 am)Agnostico Wrote:
SUNGULA Wrote:I can show you the opposite or determine the issue unsettled

I had a look and to be fair there are articles and studies that say there is a link between abortion and poor mental health and there are some that say otherwise.

Take the first link u put up. It is very detailed and cites many studies. It basically says that its a mix bag of results
https://www.apa.org/pi/women/programs/ab...health.pdf

On one hand there is this statement
"Task Force on Mental Health and Abortion concludes that the most methodologically sound research indicates that among women who have a single, legal, first-trimester abortion of an unplanned pregnancy for nontherapeutic reasons, the relative risks of mental health problems are no greater than the risks among women who deliver an unplanned pregnancy"

On the other hand there was this statement
 "In these analyses, women who had one or more abortions prior to age 21 had a significantly higher number of total psychiatric disorders by age 25 than women who had delivered or had never been pregnant by age 21. This study thus suggests that women who have one or more abortions at a young age (<21) are at greater relative risk for psychiatric disorder compared to women who deliver a child at a young age or women who do not get pregnant at a young age."

Then in this link u added...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6207970/

Like the other study the results are mixed
  • "(a) There are no findings of mental health benefits associated with abortion. 

  • (b) The association between abortion and higher rates of anxiety, depression, substance use, traumatic symptoms, sleep disorders, and other negative outcomes is statistically significant in most analyses.

  • © The minority of analyses that do not show statistically significant higher rates of negative outcomes do not contradict those that do"
They all agree that some women have negative experiences due to having an abortion. It's the extent of that which is unclear.


So from these studies both sides design and release many propaganda posters... They both milk it

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(February 17, 2020 at 4:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If you're calling to limit abortion, in the sense that it isn't available to any woman who wants one, you're a moral beast and should be ashamed of yourself.

That line just reminds me of... "How Dare You"... Hilarious

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Anyway it is what it is. Abortion is alive and well in the west

Most U.S states allow it right up until birth and allow partial birth abortion
Someone suggested I had a look and learnt about abortion procedures. 
I already knew this but I would make the same suggestion to everyone else, watch the videos at least.

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As i said in my original comment the matter is unclear and there is evidence the damage is negligible.So this isn't a good argument against abortion .And again appeals to emotion are not a good argument either

Quote:Im going to present my moral and social arguments against abortion tmrw probs.
You have no so far 

Quote:Bed time for me but a question first...
What are the reasons someone would choose abortion over adoption? Its a big decision and i want to make sure i understand it. As a guy I can only guess.
Because it means remaining pregnant which is a state the woman does not wish to be in and has vey right to change  

Quote:Maybe if a girl doesn't want her parents to find out 
Could be it's valid reason 


Quote:She might be pressured by her family or the guy
That is an objection to forced abortion which is wrong 

Quote:Maybe if she doesn't want to carry the child and give birth to it
Again totally valid 

Quote:She might not want to have her child out there somewhere with other parents, never see him again
his trauma is very real 

"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 9:00 am

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