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Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it
(February 23, 2020 at 4:59 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Now, whether it's moral, I'd argue that it is. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that a fetus can be considered a human being. Then it's a human being which can't survive except by utilizing the organs of another human being. Should any human being have a right to the organs of another non-consenting human being, even if his life depends on that? I think the answer is no. Should you be forced to give one of your kidneys if that's the only way somebody can survive? It would be nice of you if you did, but refusing to do that isn't the same as murdering somebody.

Hi, just to let u know first i lean towards allowing abortion in the 1st trimester and cases of rape, incest, health risk, etc.

I tend to agree with @Belacqua about that moral argument. 
Also a fetus is viable from about 20 weeks so you argument doesn't really include viable fetuses 

We all know that sex can lead to pregnancy or worse, STDs. 
The male condom and female condom is the only contraception that protects against both. But there is an array of birth control options.

Combined pill
Progestogen pill
Diaphram
Contraceptive ring
Contraceptive injection
Contraceptive patch
Contraceptive implant
Intrauterine system
Intrauterine device
Cervical cap
Sponge
Spermicides

There traditional methods

Fertility awareness of menstrual cycle
Pull out messy method

And if all else fails, in case of “emergency”
Morning after pill



Given the range of contraceptive options would you agree that having unprotected sex was irresponsible in the first place? Is promiscuous sex without protection immoral given the sharp increase in STDs in the past 20 years? 

Wouldn't it be reasonable for them to take responsibility for their decision and deliver the child for adoption? Or at the least have an early abortion? In truth not many abortions take place into the 2nd and 3rd trimesters anyway and i don't see why someone would wait that long to make a decision 

There isn't enough emphasis on safe sex anymore like in the 80s and 90s and there really should be. If abortion was illegal all together it would make people think twice. Add a safe sex campaign revealing the STD epidemic which is in the west and hardly no one will be sleeping around unprotected anymore, far less unwanted pregnancies, less single mothers, less strain on the welfare, less STDs

This is my moral argument.

An immoral act is one that is done consciously and causes harm or affects well being.

At 8 weeks a fetus can feel pain. So if you deliberately cause pain upon a living organism is that immoral? Yes, even causing pain to an animal is immoral. 
So even if u only consider it to be a human once its born it is still causing pain to an unborn child. The well being of the fetus is also being disrupted.

So the woman was irresponsible to begin with, it's not the childs fault yet its the child that gets painfully dismembered and pulled out of the vagina piece by piece. U know this "my body my choice" can be countered by "your choice your responsibility". Its for that reason that my sympathy for the parents is low compared to my sympathy for the unborn child

Just my opinion anyway
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RE: Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it - by Agnostico - February 23, 2020 at 8:46 am

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