Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it

[The Architect Of Fate]

I asked if you had ever been pregnant.  The answer for that is yes or no.

Waltzing around a direct answer to a direct question is a sure sign of dishonesty.  So is throwing in other blah, blah, blah.

No, no is the answer to my question.

Ye well what is your point?

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Let me ask  you something.

If a 1 year old has kidney failure, is it moral to force the child's mother to give up one of her's to save the child?

No but no kidneys or anything is sacrificed in pregnancy?

Is it right for a child's mother to kill her child?

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Actually he reason is because your comment makes no sense


Actually i did address them and countered them

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Actually you give no reasons 


No we aren't .Nice non sequitur


Because all you give are things to reject

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Yes they did .It's you who provides no logic just emotions 


So you have never been pregnant .


It can be moral to inflict pain and no one said it was responsible.

LOL mate u haven't even looked at the right post.
Ur responding to responses not to my argument...

Yes i have and i have countred you 

Nope i have responded to you

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One case is asking the mother to sacrifice one of her kidneys for the rest of her life
The other merely asks her to carry a child for 9 months
A tiny risk in pregnancy doesn't make it comparable to loosing a kidney

Nine months or forever the length doesn't matter it's immoral period 

I meant to ask if it was ok for a mother to kill her 1 year old child?
If not then why is it ok to kill her unborn child? To deliberately harm it, to disturb its well being, to inflict pain upon it, to end it's life?
Why should the unborn child suffer the consequences for the mothers irresponsible actions?

No it's not bu ha's not he same . And it's no suffering because of her actions .

So the argument that inflicting pain is immoral isn't a strong one you say
So bashing some one is ok. Stabbing someone isn't immoral. Shooting someone is fine
Can u see the error in this line of thought...

If your going to reject the claim that inflicting pain is immoral then what is an immoral act? Define it.

The examples you give are not equal to abortion

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At what age can a child survive without the help of other human beings? 

Not equal to using someone else's body against their will 

The carer needs his own organs to survive, and the child needs the carer.

And it has no right to someone else's organs 

Therefore, the carer's organs are necessary for the child's survival, long after it is born.

You hae not shown this 

Put into the forest without assistance, no child could survive.

Not equivalent  

 Put into the world without the whole network of society, very few adults could survive. 

Not equivalent  

A fetus is dependent on others, but so is every adult

Which isn't the point

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Suppose the father doesn't want to pay to support the child after it's born. 

Not equivalent to abortion  

Is it ethical for the government to force him to pay? 

Not equal to abortion 

How do we decide when a parent should be forced to support and when he or she shouldn't be forced?

Well first by not making bad comparisons like you are