(February 24, 2020 at 9:44 am)Agnostico Wrote:BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:A man is beating a six year old with a stick. Is bashing him immoral?
Another man is raping a woman. Is stabbing him immoral?
A third man is hold a bus load of people hostage. Is shooting him immoral?
Uv shown that inflicting pain isn't immoral in a few cases
It doesn't mean that inflicting pain is never immoral cos most of the time it is
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:You can look up a definition of morality for yourself. It’s a little more complicated than inflicting pain.
It can be more complicated but it can also be very simple. Causing harm is usually immoral, not always but most of the time
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:But I’m more interested in an answer to my question. If a fetus is anesthetized so that it feels no pain during the abortion, does that abortion become moral?
You have to cause pain to deliver the anesthetic. I've never had an injection that didn't hurt
Of course inflicting pain can be immoral. But since we agree that it isn’t ALWAYS immoral, your assertion fails, as it becomes evident that not all abortions are immoral. Inflicting pain cannot be said to be the sole determining factor of morality.
Who says the anesthetic has to be delivered via injection? There’s gas and (I would imagine) other methods of delivery that don’t require an injection.
So you’ve never had a shot that didn’t hurt. So what? If pain is, as you claim, a determining factor of morality, isn’t reason you got the shot (preventing/curing disease, prep for surgery, alleviating greater pain, whatever) more moral than the pain of a pinprick?
Boru