Abortion: 10 years as an atheist and I still don't get it

[The Architect Of Fate]

A man is beating a six year old with a stick. Is bashing him immoral?

Another man is raping a woman. Is stabbing him immoral?

A third man is hold a bus load of people hostage. Is shooting him immoral?

Uv shown that inflicting pain isn't immoral in a few cases
It doesn't mean that inflicting pain is never immoral cos most of the time it is

You can look up a definition of morality for yourself. It’s a little more complicated than inflicting pain.

It can be more complicated but it can also be very simple. Causing harm is usually immoral, not always but most of the time

But I’m more interested in an answer to my question. If a fetus is anesthetized so that it feels no pain during the abortion, does that abortion become moral?

You have to cause pain to deliver the anesthetic. I've never had an injection that didn't hurt

All this talk about causing pain, seems to me the little fucker is going to cause mommy more pain regardless. Seems to me that you would like to cause mommy some pain as well

It has to be a conscious act for it to be immoral. The baby doesn't consciously hurt the mother

It's not just that your moral condemnation is childish, Agno..it's that you're not going to apply it to the bay-bee or yourself

Resorting to ad hominem. We all know what that means. 
An honest person would admit that it's not a bad argument
A dishonest person acknowledges the good argument by resorting to ad hominem

The baby is incapable of committing a conscious act so it's not being immoral.
Myself? I have nothing to do with it. I didn't fuck her... LoL... Its not mine im not paying alimony

The woman put herself in this position. She is the only one to blame for being in this situation, not the baby

But if ur still simpin many women opt for cesarean births these days
If u don't want to stretch out your womans vagina its a good option  


@SUNGULA
Hehehe man u are a classic. Notice how no one is responding to u. Its cos ur always a step or two behind mate.
I bet u can't identify the post we are all talking about.

Actually the reason no one is responding to me is because most of them agree with me .So why would they respond ?.I already know what post it is seriously you freaking hilarious pretending your somehow ahead of me when your eating my dust.

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Not all...

Not an argument 

Nuff said.

Not enough i'm afraid 

 Im happy

Ignorance is bliss

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Anyway abortion isn't mentioned in the Christian magic book but they oppose abortion of any kind.

Abortion is mentioned in he bible 

Ive said a few times that i think abortion in the 1st trimester is ok along with extreme cases.

Which is too restrictive 

 It's what i voted on that poll. It doesn't align with the magic books

Yes i actually does 

Moral realism, moral subjectivism. I had to look up the definitions and i was like what... So i have no idea what u mean by those term. Explain them to me in simple terms if u want

Then you have no business discussing morality 

But ur definition of a moral realist makes u sound like Joseph Stalin, "no opposing views" doesn't exactly make u sound like a rational person that someone can ever reach a
n understanding with. 

Objective facts are up for dispute one does not' become Stalin because they acknowledge reality 

What determines an incorrect view to a correct one? Isn't it just your opinion? Or do u have a different magic book? Is there a formula?

So your a postmodernist 

So if u want to elaborate feel free cos i only know and see the magic book and opinions. 

Your blindness is your issue 

Engineering is my thing not the social sciences so if ur gonna use complex terms i'll tune out. 

Again hat's your problem 

Knowing now that u consider all my opinions that differ to yours to be false without even understanding them or knowing what they even are...

I think he understands enough
 

Man... U just sound like a narcissist... LoL... U should disclose that to everyone u speak to first. It would save a lot of wasted time

And you sound dodgy 

So i dunno. I can't imagine i'll be tuned in for too long but go on... Elaborate

Why the hell should he ? 

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Yes, abortion is mentioned in magic book, as I already explained to you.  Magic book is fine with it, magic book recommends it.  What magic book says is a shitty reason to do anything, but it's fun to know what's actually in there.

Moral realism - right and wrong are determined by objective facts.

Moral subjectivism - right and wrong are determined by subjective facts.

Who cares what my explanation of moral realism makes me sound like?  I don't.  It's simply a consequence of the realist position that some set of moral propositions is right, and the rest are wrong.  The trouble isn't that a person fails to understand "the other side" - they understand them fine...and think they are wrong.

It's hilarious that a man who doesn't even understand basic moral philosophy has the balls to make metaethical statements about abortion