Saturated Fat Controversy

[The Grand Nudger]

Never occurred to you to wonder why that might be?

Because meat is usually more expensive, it takes more resources to produce enough of it than it does to produce plants which people can eat. And that's even so if you are trying to feed the animals with plants which people can't eat, such as trefoil.

That's not even remotely why, you're putting more chips in the losing pile.  We eat more meat because we can afford to.  We eat more..just more, full stop, because we can afford to.  No one is sitting there at the dinner table calculating the realities of production.  Hell...you can't even accept the realities of production because they don't fit with your scatterbrained ideology.

And that's the reason why it's usually less expensive to, if we are going to eat meat, feed the farmed animals with nutrient-dense plants which humans could also eat, rather than to feed them with trefoil.

People could buy fucking trefoil if they wanted to..they don't, lol.  People could grow fucking trefoil if they wanted to, but they don't. Because business is not a charity, or a program aimed at feeding the starving masses....and growing food is a business.

Well, I am studying electrical engineering and computer science, so I don't have much time. Furthermore, I think the burden of proof here isn't really on me.

Well that's probably because you didn't study philosophy or agricultural production.  You claimed that veganism could help to feed the world.  That puts the burden on you, and you would have to know at least a little bit about the realities of agricultural production to float that one..which you don't, and don't care to research.  

You're a fucking crank who watched some youtube videos.

If we all suddenly stopped smoking, those poor people who work on tobacco farms in Cuba might, for all we know, end up starving. Therefore, we shouldn't stop smoking. Does that make sense?

Hey, that's in my wheelhouse, actually.  Pretty sure I told you that...but you seem too "busy" to listen to anything anyone who knows more than you tells you, or to learn those things for yourself. Unless it;s some crank, like you, but on youtube. Then you have all sorts of time, and even more time to argue those crank viewpoints with people who do know what they're talking about. IDK, pretty sure that you're entirely full of shit. But go ahead, spend some more of that time you don't have to rebut, lol.

That we all stopped smoking (not me, i love me some smoke, I'm not just in the burley transition biz and in Kentucky, I'm from Tampa Bay, lol) actually has impoverished burley producers...in a first world country.  To the point that theyre engaging in criminal conspiracies to defraud their federally backed insurance so that they don;t fail to pay their mortgage..and end up in a trailer park, lol.

To use this as an analogy, your analogy....while it isn't a good reason to -not- stop smoking (just as I've explained to you ad naus that there are good reasons to change our dietary habits)..it would be a stunning example of how false a claim like "if we all stopped smoking then burley producers would be better off" is demonstrably, patently, and absurdly untrue..just as the claim that starving people would have food if we ate less or no meat is demonstrably, patently, and absurdly untrue....

...which is what I have been telling you, not arguing about some other irrelevant shit you desperately want to bicker about to save face for having been a committed idiot over..and over...and over.

-and now what, you're reduced to lying to me about not having the time to -stop- being a committed idiot? That's your problem, not mine or anyone else's. Only you can decide to stop being a committed idiot. You could have used any of the time you were committing to idiocy to do that, huh?