What do invented saints tell us about Christianity?

[EgoDeath]

I find it interesting that you constantly feel the need to defend Christianity. For an atheist, youre an odd guy. Not necessarily a bad thing, but true nonetheless.

Its as if youre unable to partake in a conversation about the flaws of religion.

The flaws of religion are well documented on this forum. Some people seem to get positive joy from repeating the same flaws over and over. In fact I think some people would be satisfied if the whole web site consisted of a big red button that said "Religion Bad" on it, and you could come here and click on the button every day. Click really hard.

The shocking thing for me is that the so-called reasonable people are so committed to falsehoods as well. I think we all know that the for-profit media corporations are only interested in money and not quality. Yet I'm continually shocked by just how bad the "successful" products really are. 

Sagan's Cosmos and Tyson's both repeated falsehoods about history. Stephen Greenblatt's book on Lucretius, The Swerve, was panned by real historians, yet given high-level awards by people whose ideology it flattered. Dawkins knows that his past books contain numerous errors, yet once again, in his newest one, he neglected to have it fact-checked by experts. The guy lives in Oxford, where there are any number of grad students who would do the job well and cheaply, within bicycling distance of his home. Yet he didn't bother. Hitchens' book is just embarrassingly full of errors -- not ideological things I disagree with, but facts about history that educated people know. 

If we lambaste religious people while repeating our own favorite falsehoods, we are just hypocrites.

Ok bel so then why do you spend time here? To remind us of how were just as mistaken as the christians we criticize? Youve appointed yourself to this position... Or...? 

Its insane to me that you dont realize how arrogant you are, forever playing the devils advocate to a group of people who dont believe in the devil, constantly reminding us of how "committed to falsehoods" we all are, as if even if that were true, that somehow disqualifies us from criticizing the falsehoods that the religious are committed to.

The thing is, you defend quite a small subset of christianity. Most christians are not who you make them out to be, leisurely perusing the works of Aquinas and enjoying the fine poetry of The Divine Comedy... Thats simply not who most christians are. Furthermore, I dont think were required to criticize the type of christianity you espouse, mostly because those types of christians often believe in god about as much as you or I do.

Plenty of educated Jews are atheists who simply choose to follow the traditions for whatever personal reasons they have. I suppose the same is probably true for many educated Christians.

And even if they do believe in god, so what? They still concede that the majority of the bible is symbolic tropes amd metaphors, right? So what do any of us care? If you want to believe in some malleable , symbolic, cherry picked version of christianity, thats totally cool with me. So long as you dont push harmful ideas on others and tell your kids theyre going to hell if they dont brush their teeth at night. I dont really care what you believe.

Tell me what it REALLY is about atheists that you have a chip on your shoulder about. Im honestly concerned. You clearly think pretty lowly of the community here, as were apparently all just committed to falsehoods and follow lying, opportunistic leaders like Tyson and Dawkins. Whats your real point bel? Honestly? What is it you REALLY want to say?