RE: Does humanity deserve Corona?
March 28, 2020 at 4:14 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2020 at 4:17 am by Mr Greene.)
(March 27, 2020 at 9:14 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(March 27, 2020 at 8:52 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: He mourns the passing of the Ottoman Empire, despises the Arabs who overthrew it and wishes to return to the 'Caliphate' which (according to him) should have total domination of the globe.
Is that right? I think I'll wait for him to confirm.
Your own record on this thread doesn't give me confidence that you are correctly presenting his position.
Just now I did a search for the word "Ottoman" on this forum. I looked at about 30 of his posts. None of them says what you attribute to him, though there are a lot and I didn't see all of them.
This is one that I found:
Quote:Islam has no command center or a single leader; since the fall of the Ottoman Empire after World War 1, Muslims have been a defeated nation that holds so much anger alongside the bitterness of defeat. Nobody is more broken than a Muslim if you studied us carefully. It's an inferiority complex in its purest form: and inferiority complexes are usually masked by a thick layer of superiority complex.
This appears to be true, as far as I know. The Ottoman Empire was the last time a self-identified Muslim country had that much power -- though it was a long time in decline. In terms of international power politics, the non-Muslim countries have taken over the role of doing evil things to weaker countries. Personally I think it wouldn't be possible or desirable to go backwards, and advocating that one empire conquer another isn't going to be an improvement. But I'll let WinterHold speak for himself.
Anyway, if we change the subject again it will take us away from the topics I've been addressing. It won't help your argument to do a Gish Gallop and avoid the fact that Muslim countries for a long time have been oppressed by more powerful countries, and that a great deal of their economic troubles come from imperial politics. It is not primarily a religious issue.
You should have tried searching for his views on a global Caliphate, that has been the most jarring change in his outlook since I returned to the forum.
His views regarding the Arabs usually surface when he's ranting about the Saudis.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?-Esquilax
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