Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?

[The Grand Nudger]

Right on cue, the last guy who whipped his dick out and stepped on it waddles right on in, lol.

As it so happens, they did. There's another criteria that you've offered which doesn't, never would have, and never even could have informed your beliefs.  

You get props for being explicit, though.  You're trying and failing, whereas I don't think that our other new friend really has a plan.

(I know, I know, you're going to argue that the people who did exactly what you offered up were simply wrong - which is fine, but pointless.)

I am not really getting what you're saying here. I already asked members here, repeatedly, to actually come up with a clear mistake in the Qur'an, all of them failed so far, you included. It's not that we're good at justifying any verse, there really isn't.

I said before myself I would be greatly relieved if someone convinces me, decisively, that Muhammad made it all up to sound divine. I don't want, nor does any Muslim, to pray fives times a day to a delusion at all.

That said, of course a book with no mistake doesn't mean it's true, but it would be progress if atheists admit that in the case of the Qur'an, and start looking for more serious objections.

You were presented with piles of them - you simply believe that the mistakes are not mistakes.  This is also what I expect from the OP.  

It's a pointless argument and it is an argument in bad faith...particularly when a person demonstrates, as you did in that thread and now in this one, that their own self selected criteria are uninformative.

You were no more willing to rethink your position on the grounds you offered than you would be on anything that anyone else offered.  

If you're still not getting it, I could rattle off a handful of neutral examples.

I'll add one just to get the ball rolling. If the asserted perfection of a magic book indicates that there is a god, then the factual imperfection of said book would be expected to have the reverse effect. Neither you nor our other friend believes this, however. You would both insist that the christian magic book is full of errors, but neither of you think that the christian magic book..being full of errors, means that your allegedly shared god does not exist. There are christians who are also inerrant literalists who make the same claim (and even poiintlessly argue that mistakes are not mistakes) - but you would no more accept that claim or those excuses than I would accept you or our new friends own.

In mere reality, the issue of whether or not a magic book is gods word and whether or not it contains internal or external errors are entirely separate questions.

If we live in a world where some silly god exists and there are errors in magic book..the silly god still exists.

If we live in a world where a magic book contains no errors and no silly gods exists....magic book still contains no errors.

There is no state of affairs between these separate propositions which could, in any way, demonstrate the other. In this.....you should be eternally grateful - because it means that magic books don't have to be magic for your silly god to exist, and it also means that if magic books were false cover to cover, some silly god might still exist.