(May 15, 2020 at 7:49 am)Belacqua Wrote:(May 14, 2020 at 10:41 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: Why did you title this atheist vs naturalist ?
There is no versus. You can be both and I would say most are.
That's what I was going to say. Most atheists whom I've read on the Internet are certainly also naturalists.
In fact I think it would be good if people used the term more about themselves. If it's true, as we're confidently assured, that atheism is merely a lack and has no positive assertions, then it would clarify our conversations if we knew what view people hold to.
The claim that one's position on metaphysical issues is a lack of position (i.e. atheism) is sometimes used to imply that one has nothing to defend or explain. But since thinking adult atheists reject religious claims for some reason -- usually naturalism -- such people do hold a position and do have something to justify.
And to be clear I am not at all saying that naturalism is a bad position to hold -- only that it is a position with reasons and implications.
I think that once we've established that someone is an atheist, the next step, if you're interested, is to ask what positions they DO hold. Merely being a theist doesn't say much of anything either. If you never get to, say, 'I'm a methodological naturalist', that's on the interrogator, isn't it? It's not the theist's fault if I don't care to inquire about the specifics of their theology.
Here, atheists often cover why they're an atheist in their introduction threads.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.