RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
May 25, 2020 at 10:13 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2020 at 10:17 am by Rhizomorph13.)
(May 24, 2020 at 11:05 pm)Succubus#2 Wrote:(May 24, 2020 at 8:40 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: What about subnatural or zeitranatural or even quadranatural
I could affix prefixes all day but why would we attribute truth to an untestable thing?
Is that a full-spectrum truth or a half truth?
It is a full spectrum truth with extra truth sauce before doing a half-gainer into the pool of truth!
(May 24, 2020 at 10:31 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(May 24, 2020 at 10:26 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: But it would be natural just abnormal
According to the definition I'm using, it would be supernatural. I've explained why.
Why do you say that a frog doing what a frog can't do would be natural?
Quote: and certainly an outlier but being an outlier does not make something unnatural.
Outliers, as I understand it, are possible but rare. They are still within the bounds of science, in that they can be tested through repeatable empirical methods.
You've introduced a new term here: unnatural. What do you mean by this?
Quote: AGAIN I'll ask why should we give credence to an idea such as supernatural without any supporting evidence?
I'm not saying you should believe in the supernatural.
I'm saying that when you talk about "any supporting evidence" you are begging the question, since the evidence you accept is the kind that doesn't address things which are non-repeatable and non-empirical.
Ahh so it is a definitions game. I would counter with my definition of natural which would be whatever is observed (Not necessarily with eyes or ears) is natural. So if a frog threw its asshole against the wall and jumped through it to another dimension and I saw it happen I would say we have a lot to learn about the true nature of frogs!
If a thing is, then it is natural. If God exists it is natural, I would argue that it would constitute the anchor point of all of nature from most definitions of god that I know.