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Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
(May 27, 2020 at 8:11 pm)Belacqua Wrote: [Waffle snipped]


Quote:I watched the video. In the portion you describe as "an uppercut that floors the mystics," Dr. Carroll makes a persuasive case that no natural particle of field strong enough to affect the human mind over long distances remains undiscovered.

He says no such fucking thing! He says they do not exist!

Quote:I'm happy to take his word for it -- anyone who is claiming that undiscovered natural particles or fields affect the human mind over long distances should stop making that claim. 

It's not his word, it's (one of) the conclusions of the standard model of physics.

Quote:However, he doesn't say anything about the supernatural.

You either didn't watch it or you didn't understand it.

Quote: Why should he? He's a physicist. His job is the natural world. 

That's pretty definitive, you definitely didn't understand.


Quote:I don't know of any mystic who argues that undiscovered natural particles or fields affect the human mind. Are you sure you know what a mystic is?

Someone who believes in the existence of realities beyond human comprehension?

Quote:If they are making claims about the supernatural world, it is not something that Dr. Carroll will study. His speech here is completely irrelevant to the claims of mystics.

His speech negates everything the mystics et al, have to say.


Quote:I find the writings of some mystics to be very beautiful. Theresa of Avila, Boehme, and Blake are among my favorites. Have you read anything by them? If you did, I think it would make clear that none of them makes claims that modern physics could address.

Well that's nice. Now tell me what part of Carroll's lecture do you disagree with.
Miserable Bastard.
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RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me... - by Succubus#2 - May 27, 2020 at 8:38 pm

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