(May 28, 2020 at 8:41 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(May 28, 2020 at 8:25 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Give a counter example, and how it can potentially be demonstrated.
I just got through saying that I changed my mind. It can't be demonstrated. Because True Believers can always find a way.
Science can't explain some things right now. You assume that all those things can be explained by science eventually. I am not sure of that. That is all.
It's like the Loch Ness monster example. The existence of the monster cannot be falsified. However, an abundance of evidence makes it reasonable for us to assume that there is no monster.
Likewise, the statement "science can explain everything" can't be falsified. A preponderance of evidence may make it reasonable to assume that everything can be explained by science, but no certainty is possible.
(May 28, 2020 at 8:28 pm)brewer Wrote: I find that honest people are usually willing to talk about themselves.
And I find that people who can't justify their assertions like to change the subject and attack the guy who asks them to do it.
Quote:And if I don't agree with your assertions and/or justifications what is the truth then? You'll insist yours is the truth, I'll insist mine is. I wonder what that is called?
That's called a demand for logical argument and reasons. If we go on insisting without those things it's a waste of time.
If we change the subject to talk about the people in the discussion, that's a distraction.
Quote:My conclusions regarding you and the supernatural stand.
Our experience discussing Giordano Bruno makes this unsurprising. You actually decided what to believe about him based on the desire to believe the opposite of me. You were unable to support your conclusion, but you held to it anyway. So I don't expect any of your conclusions to be subject to change.
Nope, my conclusion was supported just fine. The thread started out as biased from the very beginning and devolved from there. I knew nothing of this guy and then found sources that disagreed with your sources/position. You cherry picked my sources and dismissed/ignored the statements that talked about science. Is it any wonder that I didn't play nice. It often seems that it's your way or the highway.
See, this is why truth is subjective.
From the beginning thru to the end you were more incensed that people were saying that he was a martyr for science rather than the church burned someone alive.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.