RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
June 3, 2020 at 6:27 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2020 at 6:28 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(June 3, 2020 at 6:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's just one demonstration of how a person who we might not normally imagine to be a secular hum,anist suddenly becvomes one when the subject is some other god and some other gods law than the one that they've privileged. Ultimately, no believer genuinely believes that the law is what it is merely because god says so. They believe that the things god says are good for human beings.
Or, if you prefer...that the proper way to govern human society is by reference to what benefits human society - not what might benefit some god.
Unfortunately, I think a great many do believe in a society that benefits "some god" rather than a society that benefits society. A society where you only ought to only bake a cake for some people, because that benefits God-- that's the society many believers crave. Fuck the fact that you are discriminating against a great many people who have a lot of good to do for that society. They offend "some god." That's reason enough not to bake a cake.
This position is real for some people. And it isn't humanism. It's an irrational departure from humanism. And it's done for the sake of "some god."
Christians are civil because we eventually forced them to be civil. They only accept humanist values because we made them.
This doesn't apply to all Christians, of course, but to a great many, it does apply. This "great many" aren't secular humanists. And they exist. And they're numerous.
