(May 17, 2020 at 1:37 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(May 17, 2020 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: it is vital to redefine the Prophet’s words to mean as many different things as needed to make the prophecy work.
Redefine ? Every variant I gave is quoted from renowned collections of authentic hadiths. Authentic. Many variants help understand the full meaning, they don't really change it.
(May 17, 2020 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: For other prophecies, like the plague one, we can only use the specific, modern definition of the words, because that makes the prophecy work.
The plague even in its specific sense is not modern, it's alluded to in the OT.
Saying "plagues happen, or "will happen again", in the context of old mythology, does does not demonstrate any scientific knowledge as to why they happen.
Just like one can observe lightening does not prove the existence of Thor. Just like the observation of hurricanes does not prove the existence of the ocean god Poseidon.
Plaguess do happen, but not because Allah or Yahweh or Buddha or Vishnu exist. Plagues happen because virus's and bacteria exist, and we scientifical now know what DNA/RNA are. Humans worldwide in every religion in antiquity had NO CLUE in any modern context what bacteria or viruses were back then. So humans in every religion back then made up superstitious reasons as to why they were being "punished" or superstitious reasons as to why they survived.
IN REALITY viruses and bacteria don't give a fuck what one's religion is. Viruses and bacteria are not punishments anymore than if you get stuck in the path of a hurricane it isn't Poseidon punishing you. It just means you are in the path of a hurricane.
Viruses and bacteria are merely an unfortunate part of life, no magic or god needed to explain why good or bad happen in life.
