RE: One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many
May 17, 2020 at 2:06 pm
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2020 at 2:07 pm by R00tKiT.)
(May 17, 2020 at 1:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Saying "plagues happen, or "will happen again", in the context of old mythology, does does not demonstrate any scientific knowledge as to why they happen.
Just like one can observe lightening does not prove the existence of Thor. Just like the observation of hurricanes does not prove the existence of the ocean god Poseidon.
Plaguess do happen, but not because Allah or Yahweh or Buddha or Vishnu exist. Plagues happen because virus's and bacteria exist, and we scientifical now know what DNA/RNA are. Humans worldwide in every religion in antiquity had NO CLUE in any modern context what bacteria or viruses were back then. So humans in every religion back then made up superstitious reasons as to why they were being "punished" or superstitious reasons as to why they survived.
IN REALITY viruses and bacteria don't give a fuck what one's religion is. Viruses and bacteria are not punishments anymore than if you get stuck in the path of a hurricane it isn't Poseidon punishing you. It just means you are in the path of a hurricane.
Viruses and bacteria are merely an unfortunate part of life, no magic or god needed to explain why good or bad happen in life.
You're just repeating one classical (failed) objection against the existence of God. Just because we know/can explain why stuff happen doesn't rule out a supernatural agent. I am not going to delve arguments for theism once again, I am just pointing out to you that your whole wall of text above is one big empty tautology.
Dinner table is empty because mechanical forces -obeying all laws of physics one can think of- operated on every plate and displaced the mass of food that was there some time earlier........... it's just minutiae to account for the fact that somebody ate dinner. When you zoom in and start overthinking about scientific explanations, it's really easy to give in to the urge to rule out an intelligent cause entirely.
Now for the universe, because we are fallible little mammals with fallible brains, we perceive modern explanations of phenomena as something huge and complex, when, in reality, it's just our very limited perspective of magical sleight of hand of an infinitely powerful deity.
(May 17, 2020 at 1:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nonsense. How is a rain of frogs a ‘plague’ in the modern sense? Or an invasion of insects? Or a river turning to blood? Even the ‘plague’ that killed the livestock and the firstborn are not well enough described in the OT to qualify specifically as ‘plague’ in the modern sense.
Nice try, bro. You talk of the "modern sense" of plague as it was some obscure case of rarely seen diseases, the plague in its modern sense is the same plague that caused the deadliest pandemics in history, including the Black Death.
I guess you are the ones trying to make words as loose and meaningless as possible to rule out prophecies. This same tactic performed by your ancestors is what made you lose the words of Jesus entirely, to be left with the song of songs........