Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?

[Greatest I am]

Jesus is whomever you want him to be.

Basically, but that does not speak to the morality angle in the O.P.

Regards
DL

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Original sin, until belief and repentance....... he punishes all.

That would be ok if scriptures did not say that we do not have the free will to believe or not.

You need to read the quotes in this old O.P.

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Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design?
 
Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byHYeHN4ZUQ
 
Those quotes seems to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us.
 
The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures.
 
If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith?
 
Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm?
 
Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please?
 
I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed.
 
Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did.
  
What is your choice of those two options?
 
Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars.
 
I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians.
 
What do you think is the truth?
 
Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?
 
Regards
DL

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Is it a sin to tell people, that to be saved, they have to abdicate their own responsibilities and put them on Jesus?

IOW, is substitutional punishment moral?

Regards
DL

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Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
 
Christians seem to think that Jesus took the punishment for sinners with his sacrifice/suicide on the cross. IOW, Christians see Jesus as asking Christians to abdicate their responsibility for their own sins and punishments.
 
If humans asked that, it would be considered quite immoral and unjust. All courts try hard to punish the guilty and not the innocent.
 
These quotes are what I think Jesus would have taught on this issue, him being a Jewish Rabbi.
 
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
 
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
 
Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
 
There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments, yet Christians are doing just that in trying to use Jesus as their scapegoat.
 
Regards
DL

When it comes to ANY religion in the world, there is not one religion ever ,in human history that does not have histories of followers that justify tribalism.

Otherwise Buddhists and Hindus wouldn't fight among themselves. But human history proves that they do.

Buddhist fight each other between Tibet and China and Japan. Hindus have murdered Muslims for eating cows. 

Humans would do  better worldwide in skipping tribalistic bullshit.

Tribalism is a part of our instincts as we are born the most insecure animal on the planet.

What human bonding mechanism would you invent to replace it? How do we ignore our instincts to form tribes?

I can only see having people think of all humanity as a tribe, but a one world government and system, people fear.

Experts say we are moving that way and will inevitably get there, but I think you and I will not live long enough to see it.

Regards
DL