RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
July 28, 2020 at 11:03 am
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2020 at 11:11 am by Greatest I am.)
(July 27, 2020 at 6:15 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(July 27, 2020 at 4:24 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Tribalism is a part of our instincts as we are born the most insecure animal on the planet.
Tribalism occurs when we say "people like that are dumb and people like me are smart." Or when we look at a large and diverse group of people and say "those people are promoting tribalism but people like me oppose it."
Quote:you and I will not live long enough to see it.
That's because you are promoting tribalism, by blaming a tribe who's different from you.
You put a lot of words in my mouth.
Where did you see me promote tribalism?
All I did was indicate that it is an instinct in us.
You found you could not offer an alternative and saw that as me promoting it.
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DL
(July 27, 2020 at 9:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(July 27, 2020 at 4:24 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Basically, but that does not speak to the morality angle in the O.P.
If you're looking for moral lessons and exemplars in magic book, you've utterly missed the point of magic book.
It tells you how to get into the themepark in the sky, not how to be a good person.
I disagree.
The bible is full of moral lessons.
For instance, the morality of Yahweh's actions teach us much.
Unfortunately, Christians call evil good.
Gnostic Christians learned that Yahweh is an evil prick.
Did you not learn the same moral lesson?
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DL
(July 27, 2020 at 11:35 pm)brewer Wrote:(July 27, 2020 at 4:24 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: What do you think is the truth?
You're working at about 20 watts.
Thanks for putting me above your wattage.
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DL
(July 28, 2020 at 5:44 am)Grandizer Wrote:(July 26, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: I agree that fathers should sacrifice themselves for their children should the need arise.
Note how that prick Yahweh did the opposite.
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DL
Just to comment on this since I see atheists make a similar remark in their criticism of mainstream Christianity, and I feel it reveals a misunderstanding of the doctrine of the Trinity.
Under Trinitarianism, the analogy of human fathers and sons isn't a good one. Reason why is that the Father and the Son (in the Trinity) are not separate beings with independent wills, but rather they're one and the same being (along with the Holy Spirit) with basically the same will. Whether that means one will ontologically or three wills but in complete unison, I don't know. But the analogy just doesn't work here.
It might work if they all shared the same single consciousness but only the father knows some things, like the time of the end.
They should have stuck with the original trinity of father, mother and child.
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DL