RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
July 30, 2020 at 12:10 pm
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2020 at 12:17 pm by Greatest I am.)
(July 29, 2020 at 6:28 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(July 26, 2020 at 2:38 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?Moot point. If Jesus actually existed then he turned up a worm farm a long time ago. What he "thinks" means shit!
Christians seem to think that Jesus took the punishment for sinners with his sacrifice/suicide on the cross. IOW, Christians see Jesus as asking Christians to abdicate their responsibility for their own sins and punishments.
If humans asked that, it would be considered quite immoral and unjust. All courts try hard to punish the guilty and not the innocent.
These quotes are what I think Jesus would have taught on this issue, him being a Jewish Rabbi.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments, yet Christians are doing just that in trying to use Jesus as their scapegoat.
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DL
That is why I was asking you and other posters.
Thanks for your kneejerk reaction
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DL
(July 30, 2020 at 1:48 am)Belacqua Wrote:(July 29, 2020 at 11:17 am)Greatest I am Wrote: So I am both promoting tribalism and denouncing it.
You SAY you're denouncing tribalism,
No.
Get the quote.
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DL
(July 30, 2020 at 1:56 am)Eleven Wrote: Isn’t it better to think for one’s self than to be told what to think?
That would depend on the skill and ability of the thinker.
Many make thinking mistakes, depending on whose thinking system they have been indoctrinated in.
Christians indoctrinates many into thinking a genocidal prick is somehow a good god.
We all learn what to think from others, as a starting point, and some of us are lucky enough to break conditioning and become free thinkers.
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DL