RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
August 13, 2020 at 2:51 am
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2020 at 2:53 am by Fake Messiah.)
Grandizer Wrote:The sun rises and sets every day (well, from our perspective that is). All this talk about life and death, however, requires you to provide actual primary sources stating what the ancient people you're referring to believed exactly. Primary source does not mean your interpretation that is cleverly worded to affirm your anti-Christianity biases and to win the argument being had in this case.
I just want to see what those sources say first before assuming anything unnecessarily just for the sake of argument.
[...]propagating this sun god nonsense that FM is implicitly spouting.
Sure, I could give you sources and I gave you one in form of picture but after all it is mysticism. I mean, for instance here is Joseph Campbell saying:
Quote:Here we face very similar themes in the Jewish and Christian traditions. The theme is also found in the mystery religions in which Adonis dies and is resurrected.
And all these come at springtime, matching the bursting forth of flowers and the return of the sun. Even the plangent longing we experience at this season must be related to this.
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/04/15/archi...eness.html
But like I said, mysticism is not a science, we can only speculate what exactly was going on through the heads of ancient people when they invented all these gods. So you can't claim that I am wrong, just like you can't say that Belacqua's claims that resurrecting deities died only for their selfish reasons and not for humankind are right.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"