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Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
(August 13, 2020 at 2:51 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
Grandizer Wrote:The sun rises and sets every day (well, from our perspective that is). All this talk about life and death, however, requires you to provide actual primary sources stating what the ancient people you're referring to believed exactly. Primary source does not mean your interpretation that is cleverly worded to affirm your anti-Christianity biases and to win the argument being had in this case.
 
I just want to see what those sources say first before assuming anything unnecessarily just for the sake of argument.
 
[...]propagating this sun god nonsense that FM is implicitly spouting. 
 
Sure, I could give you sources and I gave you one in form of picture but after all it is mysticism. I mean, for instance here is Joseph Campbell saying:
 
Quote:Here we face very similar themes in the Jewish and Christian traditions. The theme is also found in the mystery religions in which Adonis dies and is resurrected.
 
And all these come at springtime, matching the bursting forth of flowers and the return of the sun. Even the plangent longing we experience at this season must be related to this.

https://www.nytimes.com/1979/04/15/archi...eness.html
 
But like I said, mysticism is not a science, we can only speculate what exactly was going on through the heads of ancient people when they invented all these gods. So you can't claim that I am wrong, just like you can't say that Belacqua's claims that resurrecting deities died only for their selfish reasons and not for humankind are right.

Mysticism itself is not a science, but that doesn't mean we can't ever know through writings how the ancient people interpreted things. If such writings don't exist, and all you have is speculation, then what was that about you confidently telling Belaqua he was wrong by you providing an example which you end up admitting is just based on speculation?

You can bring up multiple examples of resurrection in various myths anyway. That was never what I was questioning. What I am questioning was how the kind of resurrection (the redemptive type) found in the NT is found in myths written prior to the NT. I don't think so. I've done some research myself and haven't been able to find one such account.
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RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty? - by Grandizer - August 13, 2020 at 3:47 am

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