RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
August 13, 2020 at 5:22 am
(August 13, 2020 at 5:11 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's cool, but...as above, the observation that sacrificial gods are a thing is not the claim that christians copied those gods, for example. They never would have known about the sacrificial pantheons of mesoamerica. Couldn't possibly have copied them, nor could the mesoamericans have known about christ and copied those beliefs.
Multiple instances of parallel construction. Like a bow. Like fire. Like boats. Like agriculture. Like a fishing hook.
This is a generous appraisal, as we know for fact that christian authors were borrowers - but there's nothing wrong with that. OFC they were going to borrow stories and twists and phrases they found engaging. They borrowed the jewish god right from the outset, lol.
Yeah, you're right, there is a book called "An Edible History of Humanity" that argues how when people switched to agronomy and its lifestyle, that they started seeing/ inventing gods as sacrificing themselves for people and then people to gods to restore the order.
Here's for instance a few sentences
Quote:Some Mesoamerican cultures believed that the gods even sacrificed themselves or each other from time to time to ensure the continued existence of the universe and survival of mankind. The Maya, for example, believed that maize was the flesh of the gods containing divine power, and at harvest time the gods were, in effect, sacrificing themselves to sustain humanity. This divine power passed into humans as they ate, and was particularly concentrated in their blood. Human sacrifices in which blood was spilled were a way to repay this debt and return the divine power to the gods. Food and incense were provided as offerings as well, but human sacrifices were thought to be most important of all.
But, then again, why couldn't NT writers be influenced by Mithra's resurrection story and sacrifice?
from britannica.com
Quote:As in the Timaeus, the human soul came down from heaven. It crossed the seven spheres of the planets, taking on their vices (e.g., those of Mars and of Venus), and was finally caught within the body. The task of human life is to liberate one’s divine part (the soul) from the shackles of the body and to reascend through the seven spheres to the eternal, unchanging realm of the fixed stars. This ascent to the sky was prefigured by Mithra himself, when he left the earth in the chariot of the sun god.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"