RE: Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?
August 16, 2020 at 10:36 am
(August 13, 2020 at 3:28 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: A small point that seems to refute that so I offer it for your files.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDGgKunPsY
Thanks for the reply.
The theory that a crucified and resurrected Messiah was around in Judaism before Jesus is wrong, very much against the academic consensus, and one maverick's speculation changes nothing. From the clip:
“Exactly what that command is, no-one is sure. Time has rendered this passage virtually unreadable.”
“I don't think you can read the tablet. That section where he's seeing 'in three days rise' is illegible. I don't see those letters there. And by the way, neither does anyone else.”
“...the Jeselsohn Stone is an interesting find, but not a revolutionary artifact.“
Quote:Of course, Jesus dying for our sins is contrary to all that the Jewish law and Jesus himself would have taught so Jesus would not sanctioned such immoral thinking.
Given the detail that Paul goes into to show that Jesus' death and resurrection is completely in line with the OT narrative, I can't agree. Jesus was very clear also that this process is the fulfilment of the Torah. The Gospel writers also are careful in their commentary to show continuity with the OT story. Could you unpack your reasoning?
Quote:Where thy got their immoral version, I do not know.
That's the thing. While everyone was waiting for a Messiah to come in glory, setting God's people free, kicking out the ****ing Romans and inaugurating God's Kingdom, this small group within Judaism declared that the inauguration of the Kingdom of God had already happened. This would as a matter of course have included the full forgiveness of sins. Trying to explain plausibly why they should make this claim is pretty much impossible.
They said that they had repeatedly witnessed the return to full bodily life of a dead man, and this changed everything they thought. Whether their belief was correct is a whole other question, but that they believed it had happened is by a long way the most sensible explanation for their claim.